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final word as of this point in time on Tivo copy protection workaround

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by rajmhar, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. rajmhar

    rajmhar New Member

    Feb 10, 2012
    final word as of this point in time on Tivo copy protection workaround


    My question is straight foward.

    As of this point in time, where are we on the issue of finding a crack/hack/workaround to the following: transferring Tivo Premiere or Tivo HD XL copy-protected recordings from the Tivo to the computer?

    Has anybody ever made progress on this issue?

    What makes it so hard?

    Thank you very much for your expert advice. [/SIZE][/B]
  2. rajmhar

    rajmhar New Member

    Feb 10, 2012
    I just found this. Will this transfer copy protected recordings? There seems to be some kind of "decrypt" option. Is that it?

  3. rajmhar

    rajmhar New Member

    Feb 10, 2012
    looks like decrpty refers to decoding. sorry my bad
  4. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

    Jul 6, 2006
    Dayton OH
    It's so easy to ask a question that's hard to answer in full detail. In a nutshell:

    1. I think streaming between TiVo's has been implemented on the TiVo Premiere. (I don't have one.) Check out the Premiere forum on this site. But I don't believe this allows putting a copy on a PC.

    2. For the TiVo HD the workaround involves both software and hardware hacking. I'll leave it to lrhorer to reply here telling you how straightforward that is and why he can't understand why anyone would hesitate to do it. :rolleyes: Discussion of actual technical details of hacking are verboten on this forum. There is another forum that discusses this but even the link to it automaticallly will be detected and blocked on this forum. I don't believe there is even a hacking solution for the Premiere yet.
  5. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

    Feb 2, 2006
    I'm a little rusty on Tivo hacking but I'll give it a shot. The "workaround" involves replacing a surface-mounted EEPROM on the mainboard with a hacked chip. The Tivo drive has to be installed in a PC and booted using a Linux distribution that allows you to run Linux commands from a command prompt. You may have to transfer a file over to the Tivo drive and then execute a few commands to tell the Tivo to skip past a check that's performed at startup. This check detects the presence of foreign files and deletes anything that isn't part of the stock OS.

    The result is that you can't simply copy files over to the Tivo drive and expect them to work, let alone stay put after the drive is booted up. You then have to install various apps and insert a few lines in a configuration file that gets called at startup and tells the OS to initiate certain apps that will allow networking or any other apps you want to run. You need to edit a file using a hex editor to get around the decryption issue, or at least that's the way it used to be done. I believe there may be other issues involved with current models.

    If all this isn't enough for you, you have to rehack the Tivo if you receive an OS update.
  6. rajmhar

    rajmhar New Member

    Feb 10, 2012
    thanks. will give it shot & report back . ;)
  7. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

    Aug 16, 2001
    You can transfer any recording from a TiVo to:
    a computer, if it's equipped with a capture card.
    a standalone DVD burner. I have done this many times in the past.

    Here's the down side
    1. the video is converted from digital to analog.
    2. it happens in real time (think dubbing vinyl recording to magnetic tape.
    3. sound is in stereo.

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