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Fall Update for TiVo Premiere begins today

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Nov 1, 2013 #281 of 849
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Netflix and YouTube are still flash apps for me on my series 4 units with 20.3.7 as well. (On Roamio Pro they are html).
     
  2. Nov 1, 2013 #282 of 849
    Bierboy

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    I saw a "pause ad" this morning for the first time, but it certainly didn't take up 1/4 of my screen. Yes, it was bigger than I remember, but not THAT big...
     
  3. Nov 1, 2013 #283 of 849
    weaver

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    I don't have to worry about bigger pause ads yet, since I don't have the update.

    I'm one of those on the priority list who doesn't seem to have priority.
     
  4. Nov 1, 2013 #284 of 849
    NorthAlabama

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    got it, and noticed a couple of unwanted changes right away:

    • if you're at the bottom of "my shows", you can't use group sort to jump back to the top of the list
    • browsing upcoming recordings in hd wishlist, if you modify or cancel a recording, it forgets your place and goes back to the top of the list
    not biggies, but they will take getting used to
     
  5. Nov 1, 2013 #285 of 849
    UCLABB

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    I've always used the skip button to go to the bottom of the My Shows list and then back to the top.
     
  6. Nov 1, 2013 #286 of 849
    defond

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    I'm in the same boat here, I'm on the priority list but still no update. Does anyone know when the update is gonna be out for the people that didn't sign up? Maybe then I'll get it...
     
  7. Nov 1, 2013 #287 of 849
    NorthAlabama

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    :) thanks, yet another feature i never used before!

    another note, my shows is responding faster since the update. i will try the streaming apps this weekend...
     
  8. Nov 1, 2013 #288 of 849
    Dan203

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    Yep seeing it here too. I wonder why they did that. With streaming now being the dominant form of multi-room viewing that red slash seems a bit confusing.
     
  9. Nov 1, 2013 #289 of 849
    Dan203

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    Do you know the skip button will jump between the top and bottom of any list in the UI?
     
  10. Nov 1, 2013 #290 of 849
    tomhorsley

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    Now if I only knew which button on my harmony corresponds to the one people are calling "skip" in this thread :).
     
  11. Nov 1, 2013 #291 of 849
    xander777

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    The one that looks like this: >>|
     
  12. Nov 1, 2013 #292 of 849
    CloudAtlas

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    How can one tell the difference between an HTML5 app and a Flash application on TiVo? :confused: Technically I understand the difference. I actually ran the YouTube application for the first time ever as I wanted to see the rendering speed of an HTML5 application on Premiere. Then I realized I had no idea if was or wasn't HTML5 based!

    HTML5 applications running on the Premiere boxes is HUGE as future application development in Flash is dead (thx Apple).
     
  13. Nov 1, 2013 #293 of 849
    shamilian

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    from Margret's release note:

    new (HTML5) YouTube app with DIAL support
     
  14. Nov 1, 2013 #294 of 849
    defond

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    I emailed her a little while ago and now I am installing the update finally..
     
  15. Nov 1, 2013 #295 of 849
    moyekj

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    Today looks like my Premiere switched over to use html versions of YouTube and Netflix. The easy way to tell is they look different from the traditional series 4 versions. I'm using mindRPC functions to list applications available to the Premiere Roamio which is how I can tell more concretely:

    YouTube:
    "uiDestinationType": "web"
    "uri": "x-tivo:web:https://www.youtube.com/tv",
    "serviceGroup": ["DG_webkit_youtube"]

    Netflix:
    "uiDestinationType": "flash"
    "uri": "x-tivo:netflix:netflix"
    "serviceGroup": ["DG_webkit_netflix"]

    Netflix html version seems kind of convoluted and doesn't use an http url directly and seems to launch initially as flash and then transitions to html. The clue that it is ultimately html based seems to be in serviceGroup.

    EDIT: The above entries are for the Roamio, not my Premiere (I mistakenly thought I had run this on my Premiere). Premiere is still showing the older flash based apps so they have not been switched over for me yet...
     
  16. Nov 1, 2013 #296 of 849
    morac

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    So is HTML5 running on top of Flash on the Premiere or natively somehow?
     
  17. Nov 1, 2013 #297 of 849
    moyekj

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    20.3.7 software has built in Opera browser, so that's what is being used. (And ironically the built in Opera browser itself doesn't support Flash).
     
  18. Nov 1, 2013 #298 of 849
    koenip

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    I don't have ten posts, so the forum won't let me message Margaret to ask for her to push the update to me.

    Does anyone have any ideas?

    Thanks

    Ko
     
  19. Nov 1, 2013 #299 of 849
    MeInDallas

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    email her at Margret@tivo.com thats the quickest way.

    Make sure you spell it Margret not Margaret ;)
     
  20. Nov 1, 2013 #300 of 849
    defond

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    Does anyone know why the "what to watch now" isn't showing up in tivo central? I thought it was supposed to be included in this update.
     

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