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Explain Why Lifetime Service isn't a hugely bad idea

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by bengalfreak, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. waynomo

    waynomo My One Time TCF Club

    Nov 9, 2002
    ... Or who is dumber, or denser, or less risk adverse. :D

    I can't believe this thread didn't die 150 replies ago.
  2. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

    Feb 4, 2008
    Wait lifetime users. The finances are the finances. If everyone went lifetime then we would all have to pay a higher price as the monthly provides us a subsidy. Go Monthly!
  3. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    2005 wants you back. Wireless data isn't that bad. The data plans are $30/mo on the older plans, and some newer plans like Mobile Share Value are great, as they bundle everything together.
  4. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Active Member

    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    Right now my family pays Verizon a total of $81/month (taxes and fees included) for 3 basic cell phones. If my family upgraded to 3 smartphones w/4GB of shared data, our bill would be over $200/month, which would be about $1,500/year over what we pay now. No thanks.
  5. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    I have most of the new toys (Surface 2 pro 80" HDTV with 3D etc) but I still use my flip phone, I have 4 on my plan with a total cost of $90/month from Version, smart phones are too big to fit into my shirt pocket and I don't work where I may have needed one, so my home computers are smart enough for me and my wife.
  6. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

    May 1, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    I'll tell you.

    Back in the day when TiVo released the original S3 w/OLED display, they took away the option to get lifetime service.

    I thought 'well, I won't be buying any more Tivos anytime soon', and I really wanted an S3. I thought the OLED display was cool, plus it's not all that ugly either. But because TiVo didn't offer lifetime, they lost an $800 sale.

    I think TiVo figured out pretty quickly that was a bad idea, because they brought lifetime back shortly after releasing the Tivo HD.
  7. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

    Jul 6, 2006
    Dayton OH
    It doesn't do any good to point this out, as I did **way** back in post #114:
    Let's face it: Pissing contests are very popular!
  8. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    Yeah and we have 5 people on T-Mobile, all with smartphones, and pay $117 a month all inclusive. With unlimited talk, text, and 1GB of data a month (which we mostly don't use because we're on Wifi).

    It's really not as expensive as you think if you're willing to shop around, depending on your coverage where you live.
  9. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    +1000. Monthly folks like giving Tivo more money so if that enables them to keep offering lifetime to those willing to think things through I'm all for it.
  10. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    Oct 30, 2003
    For cell phones that can't do 90% of what a smartphone can. There are prepaid options with Unlimited talk/text/data for $45/mo per line, as well as AT&T's new Mobile Share Value which would be $145/mo for three smartphones sharing 10GB of data, although it doesn't include the device subsidies, but you can shop around, buy used phones or unlocked devices and save a lot.

    If you're in an area where Verizon's coverage is far better than anyone else's, then you're stuck selling your soul to the devil for good coverage. Although even if that's the case, smartphones on another carrier are way more useful than voice phones with great coverage that can't really DO anything.

    Smartphones are standard now. Get with the times.
  11. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Active Member

    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    This is essentially the situation I am in. Nobody else has decent coverage in my area, so what good is a cell phone if you can't make a phone call half the time you want to?

    LOL well, you could say the same thing about lots of different things. Some people don't have broadband internet, not because they don't have options for it, but because they don't feel that they need it. And some people make due with OTA rather than paid TV, because they don't feel they need to pay for the extras they don't really want or need.

    For the time being at least, I am more than satisfied using my laptop to do whatever it is I want to do online and just using a cell phone as a phone, and until that changes I see no reason to pay $1,500/year more for something I don't feel that I truly need right now.
  12. moonscape

    moonscape Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    SF Bay Area
    It's not a financial issue for me, but a fact that when out on private time, I like having the world be a connection-free zone, except for my iPad when needed, but that's on a deliberate, not always-on, basis. I've gotten so rebellious about the phone that most of the time my cell is in my car, charging in the console: my flip phone w/out data plan that is.

    I realize I'm in the huge minority, but it boils down to need and preference, that's all.
  13. brianric

    brianric Active Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Pennsville, NJ
    I have a Verizon smart phone with bare bones 250 MB data per month with unlimited text and voice for $55/month. If I need any serious data downloading I use wi-fi.
  14. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
    Did I accidentally go to the cellphonesrus forum on my forumrunner app? :confused:

    .......Unless you have a bad prostate, that is!
  15. mpaquette

    mpaquette New Member

    Aug 1, 2005
    South Carolina
    I just used PLSR to add lifetime to my new Roamio. I guess that means I'm really dumb or really smart.
  16. zalusky

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 5, 2002
    Cupertino, CA
    It's an interesting conundrum! Can you imagine not having the internet?
    Can you imagine a kid trying to compete without it?
    The point is mobile internet is the next level of competitive advantage.
    Those that have it are finding local coupons, buying tickets, finding directions, bidding on that auction, ...

    I remember a quick impulse trip to LA to get Portillos Hot Dogs. We brought out iPad and we are able to get around in the car without issue.

    The point is life is cheaper if you have the ability to search efficiently.

    Or you could go to the library and look through newspapers and then get out your fold out map.

    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
  17. mpnret

    mpnret Member

    Dec 4, 2012
    You should have stayed on monthly, paid with a credit card and then made minimum payments on the card. You know, just in case TiVo goes belly up. Then you could dispute the charge for unused days if necessary.

    I plan to do the same as you with my Roamio. Just haven't got around to it yet. Just curious did you purchase from TiVo and use the PLSR code or purchase 3rd party?

    That sarcasm brings up an interesting thought. What if you buy lifetime and TiVo did go belly up? I wonder if you could dispute any of the charge. Years ago I had Sunrocket IP phone service. It was $200. for 2 years I think. Anyway a little over a year they went belly up and I disputed the over 1 year old charge and received almost 50% back. The difference may be that Sunrocket stated 2 years and TiVo states lifetime and somewhere in t&c's I bet they have a definition of lifetime which I am sure is not to my advantage.
  18. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

    Feb 4, 2008
    Odds are that if tivo went belly up a repeat of the replyTV scenario would play out. Somebody would purchase it to provide guide data and receive the royalty payments.
  19. c133roamioerrors

    c133roamioerrors New Member

    Dec 28, 2013
    Barring an anti trust violation, Comcast should buy Tivo, quit selling them and provide them as an upgraded monthly fee option. They would continue to provide the Tivo service to those with the lifetime option until all the older Tivos crapped out.
  20. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Active Member

    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    I really hope you are joking.

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