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Everytime I consider TIVO the Monthly sub Fee stops me.

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by davefred99, May 7, 2012.

  1. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    +1 and if you want to upgrade you can get almost all your Lifetime investment back by selling the TiVo.
    I have been doing this from 2001 on, very low cost over the years for me. after my re-sales the monthly cost was under $1.50/month per TiVo.
     
  2. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Yes, the resale aspect is what really makes the lifetime purchase a superb deal.
     
  3. ncted

    ncted A leaf on the wind

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    I can easily earn 40% return on my stock options every 6 months. Even taxed as normal income, I still easily come out ahead on a $400 investment by a few bucks a month if I pay for Tivo monthly. That said, not everyone is in my position, so the lifetime option probably makes more sense for lots of other people.

    -Ted
     
  4. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    I can't address that personally, but it appears that swerver's HTPC has to get the Ceton tuners awake before they'll function. If you absolutely have to use sleep mode then you might consider the SiliconDust HDHomeRun Prime as an alternative. Both the Ceton and HDHR Prime are excellent cablecard tuners. I use both in my setup as well as two Hauppauge 2250 PCI-E tuners and a standard HDHomeRun ATSC/QAM networked dual tuner. The Ceton quad tuners and Hauppauge tuners are dedicated to my primary HTPC and the HDHR & HDHR Prime are shared between several PCs.
     
  5. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    Your correct if I had a no risk 40% a year unlimited investment opportunity I would borrow money like a mad man, mortgage my home, cars, (and kids if i could), and max out my credit cards, but for the average person that can make a risk free return of 1%-2% on their money, Lifetime TiVo service make for a good investment.
     
  6. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    No, WMC sucks for search compared to Tivo, and more importantly (to me) lacks the advanced wishlists with boolean search that Tivo has. I have a variety of ARWLs for sports that I could not do on WMC without babysitting every week to remove stuff I don't want to record.

    WMC can play a ton of stuff and has some great features like auto commercial skip with add-ons, but as an every day DVR IMO is not as good as Tivos, especially if you use extenders. I run both in my house, and with pyTivo in particular there's nothing else that I need to play anything I want on Tivo, but I don't stream BD rips - WMC might be better for that.

    YMMV.
     
  7. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    It all depends on what you're expecting your DVR to do for you. I've never felt the need to use Tivo's search functions except on a few rare occasions. With all of the season passes I have set up I rarely have to look for extra stuff to record unless it's a one-time airing of a show I'd like to watch. WMC does more than an adequate job of finding what I want in this regard. If you don't use season passes and just like to record random shows then Tivo's search feature may work better for you, but I'm just guessing.

    I see lots of extra stuff show up in my upcoming recordings list that I don't want, but it's usually because all of the metadata for a particular episode hasn't been acquired yet. If I leave it alone WMC eventually sorts it out and decides if it's a new show or a rerun. I don't recall the last time I ever had a duplicate recording of a rerun in WMC.

    WMC is a rock-solid DVR and is perfectly fine for everyday use (I use mine everyday :D). I'm not a huge fan of extenders, mainly because of their lack of codec support for various video formats. For playing back recorded TV shows from the main PC, they do exactly what they're designed to do. The one aspect that killed it for me was that if the main PC went down for any reason it disrupts every extender in the house. I switched to using small form factor (SFF) PCs in place of extenders throughout my house. Since I'm on FIOS I don't have the DRM issues that other providers have so I can share recordings from the main PC with any other PC.

    Tivo vs. HTPC is strictly a matter of personal preference and what features you want. Tivo is better in some areas and an HTPC is better in others. I use mine mainly for recording TV as season passes so there's no advantage to either in this regard. The area in which the HTPC beats Tivo hands-down is the ability to stream a multitude of video formats across my network, especially ripped Blu-Ray discs with HD audio. There are more ways than I can count to customize an HTPC for any feature you want without having to hack it, unlike a Tivo.

    It's all about choices. You can buy a box with whatever software configuration Tivo decides to give you or you can create your own custom DVR with loads of extra features. The main reason I bought a Tivo in the first place was the ability to hack it for additional storage and add extra features. Tivo has locked down the boxes to the point where even adding more storage is a daunting task.
     

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