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eSATA + internal upgrade: Any progress?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by jtown, May 8, 2007.

  1. Jun 12, 2007 #61 of 108
    TexasAg

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    That part of the FAQ is referring to using the kickstart code. In that case, if you have an upgraded internal drive, the kickstart code won't work, and the FAQ specifically says to use mfsadd (which AbMagFab correctly noted can be used with any internal drive, including the upgraded drive).
     
  2. Jun 12, 2007 #62 of 108
    vstone

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    My bad. I thought the thread had drifted to the point where somebody was saying that kickstart 62 would work on an upgraded drive. I reread the thread. I was wrong. I think the discussion about an 'original drive' that was 750GB and therefore not really the original drive led me off track.
     
  3. Jun 12, 2007 #63 of 108
    AbMagFab

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    Wow, talk about "out of context".

    That text explains why the *kickstart* method doesn't work with an already upgraded internal drive.

    MFSLIVE works with any internal drive, original or not, which is what the poster was basically asking, and what this entire thread is about. Your point just isn't applicable.
     
  4. Jun 12, 2007 #64 of 108
    vstone

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    I guess admitting I was wrong and led myself off track wasn't enough for you.

    Have a nice day.
     
  5. Jun 12, 2007 #65 of 108
    TexasAg

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    Methinks someone didn't read the posts on page 3 before responding to the post on page 2. :)
     
  6. Jun 12, 2007 #66 of 108
    vstone

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    I considered that since I've done that myself, but I assume that he eventually finished reading the thread after he posted and had the opportunity to edit his message. I could be wrong (but it does no good to admit it! ;) )
     
  7. Jun 13, 2007 #67 of 108
    jetjock34

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    Not being picky but I'm not experienced and just want to make sure it's an oversite versus correct before i try this.... should the line in MFSlive be


    mfsadd -ex -r 4 /dev/sda /dev/sdb

    versus what is stated above?
     
  8. Jun 14, 2007 #68 of 108
    AbMagFab

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    They are both the same thing. Main thing is to make sure you have the drive letters right. It doesn't matter what they are, just that they are the existing and additional drives.
     
  9. Jun 15, 2007 #69 of 108
    jetjock34

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    One last question for the incompetent...

    The two drives, A (internal to tivo) and B(new, external) are to be connected to my computer how? The "old" Tivo internal drive (A) is removed from the Tivo and then connected to the computer via the esata bracket? Now, how is the new (B) drive connected?
     
  10. Jun 15, 2007 #70 of 108
    jlib

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    Ahem... :rolleyes:

    Your computer must either have built-in SATA capability on the motherboard (all new PCs) or if an older PC with the wide flat cables then you need to obtain a card for a PCI slot in the computer to provide the SATA interface. So, just remove any SATA cables to your PC's current drives (if present) since the PC's harddisks are not needed for the procedure and attach the SATA cables to the bare TiVo drives (you can lay them loose if you can get power to them). If your PC has an eSATA bracket as you mention it is usually connected to an internal SATA port. You could use that with the external drive if you wanted since you already have an eSATA cable.
     
  11. Jun 15, 2007 #71 of 108
    TexasAg

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    You don't actually need to remove the S3's internal drive to do this. You can take the cover of the S3 off and unplug the SATA cable connected to the internal hard drive. There is enough room to attach the internal hard drive to your computer's SATA cable (if you have a long enough SATA cable). I did, so this saved some time.
     
  12. Jun 15, 2007 #72 of 108
    c3

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    You would also need a long enough power cable because TiVo has a combined power+data connector.
     
  13. Jun 15, 2007 #73 of 108
    rudolpht

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    You can Ahem me too :eek:

    So you could go eSata from the motherboard to the external (no need to crack open an Appian) as 2nd Sata drive & just pop the top of the HD Tivo (unpowered of course) and connect that to the drive still in the unit?

    Boot the ISO & execute command line.

    Sounds like this Monkey can probably do it.
     
  14. Jun 16, 2007 #74 of 108
    jlib

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    Except the original poster mentioned he had an eSATA bracket on his PC which would mean you could directly connect the eSATA cable to the external port on the bracket and to your Appian enclosure. Going directly to the SATA port on the motherboard from the Appian is a different story because SATA and eSATA have different and incompatible connectors (although the signals are very similar). So, unless you have one of those eSATA brackets on your PC that transform the SATA connector on the motherboard to an external eSATA port or in the unlikely event you have an eSATA to SATA cable lying around then you will need to open the Appian, remove the bare drive and go SATA to SATA to the motherboard.
     
  15. Jun 16, 2007 #75 of 108
    rudolpht

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    Thanks for clarification, appreciated.

    If only there was a USB key method to marry the drives w/o busting apart either enclosure, now that would be cool.
     
  16. Jun 18, 2007 #76 of 108
    George Cifranci

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    Sweet! I got mine installed last night. Pretty easy. I put my new 750GB Seagate DB35 in the Antec MX-1 eSATA enclosure and connected it to my PC via the USB port and then I opened my Tivo S3 and put it next to my PC and connected a SATA cable and power from my PC to the 750GB Seagate that is in my S3, disconnected any other SATA drives in my PC, booted the MFSLive CD, confirmed which drive was which device (the internal Tivo S3 drive was /dev/sda and the drive in the MX-1 enclosure was /dev/sdb and I ran the mfsadd command, it appeared to run successfully. I then connected everything back the way it was, connected the MX-1 to the Tivo S3 via eSATA, powered it on, powered on the Tivo S3 and then when it booted up confirmed that I now have 198 hours of HD recording! Saweeeeet!!
     
  17. Jun 27, 2007 #77 of 108
    GooberMan

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  18. Jun 27, 2007 #78 of 108
    GooberMan

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    I ordered an eSATA to eSATA cable but am planning to use my PC's internal SATA ports to do the MFSLIVE procedure. Will the eSATA cable work in a SATA port? (My PC has SATA ports but no SATA drives so I don't have a SATA cable.)
     
  19. Jun 27, 2007 #79 of 108
    George Cifranci

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  20. Jun 27, 2007 #80 of 108
    jwehman

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    No, an E-Sata cable is keyed differently than an older std SATA port (more precisely, there is no key on the E-SATA, whereas there is a key, a little "elbow", on std SATA).

    Rgds,

    jwehman
     

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