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Engadget Review

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by rmpearl, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. compnurd

    compnurd Active Member

    Oct 6, 2011
    Maybe read someone else's review first?


    Post 31 and there are a couple of others confirming functionality
  2. jfh3

    jfh3 New Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Denver area
    Didn't Engadget have an earlier level of the Mini software than the poster who got the box early from Best Buy? It's quite possible that both are correct - the function didn't exist, but does now.

    We'll certainly know for sure in a few days when the next wave of owners come online. I got a note from TiVo earlier today that my Mini had shipped.
  3. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

    Sep 24, 2004
  4. bdraw

    bdraw Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Tampa, FL
    Your experience is certainly different than mine.


    You can see that the "Manage Recordings and Downloads" menu is completely missing from the TiVo Central Menu.

    For the record, I want to be wrong about this. I think it is a critical error to leave out anything that would make the experience on the mini inconsistent with that of the Premiere.
  5. SullyND

    SullyND L:45-21 TCF Club

    Dec 30, 2004
    Chicago Burbs
    What version of the OS are you running?

    Some users reported updating upon setup.

    I wonder if this was the reason for the delay (though if it is, not advising the press of it seems beyond crazy)
  6. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    Some of the users also activated the Mini as if it was a regular TiVo and even went as far as picking the Premiere monthly fee since no other option was available. This to me says the system flagged their boxes as Premieres rather than Minis even though they have since corrected it.

    We know TiVo can add and remove features based off the box type which is how MSOs are missing some apps that we have.
  7. Bwatford141

    Bwatford141 Member

    Jan 5, 2012
    Raleigh, NC
    I activated mine on 3/9 (as a mini) and do not have access to season pass manager or TD list. I also have the same software version as cmonroe ( This must have something to do with him activating it as a premier.
  8. bdraw

    bdraw Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Tampa, FL
    My review unit is the same version number.
  9. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

    Jan 14, 2011
    Phoenix, AZ
    The YouTube video created by "cmonroe" and posted by Dave clearly shows his Mini does not have "Manage Recordings and Downloads", unless this is his second Mini, and not the first one which was initially activated as a Premiere.


  10. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    Yes, at this point I'm convinced ToDo list + SP Manager functions are NOT supposed to be available via the Mini which along with Netflix missing is disappointing.
  11. abqdan

    abqdan New Member

    Aug 29, 2012
    I wish I could add the Mini to my setup, but it requires an XL4. Since I've cut the cable, and use only an antenna for broadcast stations, I don't have that option. I hope at some point Tivo will wise up and add an antenna option to the XL4; then the cable-cutters can use this device.
  12. jmpage2

    jmpage2 Active Member

    Jan 20, 2004
    There's no "antenna option" that could be added to the XL4, it would require a full OTA setup.

    I highly doubt that TiVo is going to reverse gears and start retrofitting tuners to the current models. Your best bet would be that a new model offers an OTA option for cord cutters, but I am very skeptical that we will ever again see a new TiVo model with OTA tuners.
  13. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    Well they have applied to the FCC for a waiver to leave Analog out of an OTA product so that seems to indicate they are looking at a digital only OTA product so I wouldn't write off OTA just yet.
  14. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

    Jan 29, 2011
    SE Ohio
    I have more faith in TiVo's judgment and instinct for self-preservation than you do. They're not stupid enough to write off the growing OTA market and put themselves totally at the mercy of the cable companies.
  15. Austin Bike

    Austin Bike Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Do you have stats on the growing OTA market? I know more people are cutting the cable but I thought they were replacing it with netflix, hulu, etc.

    I found this:


    If 6% have canceled pay-TV, that means 94% still have it. I'd put my development dollars around the 94% bucket first. Especially if the profile of the OTA person is:

    Tivo's model might be one of those things they would be willing to cut. Roku has a better model for the cost cutter who wants to access content at a lower price.
  16. DaveDFW

    DaveDFW Member

    Jan 25, 2005
    Richardson, TX
    That survey does say that 6% cancelled cable service last year, but for your example to work, 100% of the public would had cable previously.

    What they're really stating is that 6% of households cancelled cable, and those households join all the households that were OTA in prior years. That combined group of OTA-only households is up to 17.8%.
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    What about households like mine that have OTA and cable?
  18. DaveDFW

    DaveDFW Member

    Jan 25, 2005
    Richardson, TX
    "17.8% of all U.S. households with TVs use over-the-air signals to watch TV programming; this compares with 15.0% of homes reported as broadcast-only last year."

    It sounds like the 17.8% figure is OTA-only households. It's not entirely clear, because the first half of the statement says "use over-the-air" and the second half says "broadcast-only."

    Edit: I overlooked the subeading of NAB's press release:

    "17.8% of homes exclusively OTA reliant"

  19. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    or OTA and Satellite - heck it hasn't been that many years that you could even get locals on Satellite.

    I only have OTA and access to people with Satellite do cable operators rebroadcast all the sub channels (satellite does not)? Seems like someone must believe someone is watching all those sub-channels as they seem to have plenty of advertising.
  20. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    They seem to broadcast them here on Comcast and FiOS. I know several people that watch them. Including me recently. Lately I've been watching CoziTv which is on a local subchannel. They have been running the Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman several times a week. So I have been watching a few episodes each week. I used to love watching those shows in the 70's. Although it's alot more funny watching them now.

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