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DVRupgrade HD DIRECTV TiVo Updates Thread

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by tivoupgrade, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. Dec 9, 2009 #1 of 34
    tivoupgrade

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    DVRupgrade has succumbed.

    I was never happy with the original split between DIRECTV and TiVo, and the DIRECTV decision to develop their own DVR systems instead of using TiVo technology as part of their offering. And it was with that in mind that we never pursed an official DIRECTV dealer status for fear it would seem that we were less loyal to TiVo.

    Now that TiVo and DIRECTV have had some time to consummate their remarriage, and that it's clear that a new DIRECTV / TiVo platform is off somewhere in the not-to-distant future, I feel it is time to reconsider my stance on that.

    So, to make a long story short, we are now an authorized DIRECTV dealer, and with that in mind, I'm setting up this thread as a placeholder for ongoing discussions about the much anticipated HD DIRECTV DVR with TiVo Service.

    I'm actually very excited to have DIRECTV dealer status, and in retrospect, I wish it was something I'd considered sooner. Not because I think the DIRECTV HD DVR is even close to being as good as TiVo's comparable HD offering on a cable system, but because the opportunity to serve those customers most loyal to DIRECTV is also an opportunity to give them access to the new DIRECTV TIVO products when they finally become available.

    Although little is known about the specifics of this emerging product, what I do know is that it was originally slated for release in 2009, and earlier this year, it was announced that it would be delayed in 2010.

    I've created this thread as a repository for what is known, rumored, hoped for and generally discussed about the product. I've also created a separate mailing list for those who want to receive updates as they are formally announced. One thing I can say for sure is that this thread is likely to be the place I post more often on the topic, vs the mailing list or our sparsely posted to blog.

    I've also set up new contact form for those with DIRECTV related questions, tips, rumors, etc. Please note that I don't trade in inside information or futures, nor am I under NDA, so anything I know, that is allowable, will be posted here!

    Thanks,

    Lou
     
  2. Dec 9, 2009 #2 of 34
    Kablemodem

    Kablemodem Get the ketchup.

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    Dear Sir,

    Please send me two (2) HD DIRECTV DVR with TiVo Service units immediately.

    Thank you,
    Kablemodem
     
  3. Dec 9, 2009 #3 of 34
    litzdog911

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  4. samo

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    I'm not sure what Tyrone was asking, but my interpretation and my question is - what do you bring to the table as DirecTV dealer that wasn't on a table already to justify yet another thread on a topic that has been discussed here in a multiple threads for a long time?
    Unless you are after free advertising in disguise, what use is it to the rest of us to know that you are selling DirecTv products?
     
  5. lrhorer

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    He was joking, and in turn offering you an opportunity to shamelessly promote your other products in the guise of answering ersatz criticisms.

    Again, it was a deliberately clumsy lob into your court, intentionally setting you up for a sizzling return shot.
     
  6. Wil

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    Great customer service? That wonderful attitude that customer satisfaction is the key to business succcess?
     
  7. tivoupgrade

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    I want to consolidate the information and discussion. There will be plenty of people coming into this area of the forum that will not see, or be able to find the fragments of information (which are mostly speculation) that are already in existence.

    For those in the know, I'd encourage you to post what you know and as you find out about it. And for those who are not, I'd encourage you to ask questions here.

    Lou
     
  8. tivoupgrade

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    I'm still thinking about the taint comment. That completely made my night. :D
     
  9. lrhorer

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    I think maybe you need to get out more often, Lou. :D
     
  10. awesomeusername

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    I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I read that...

    thanks
     
  11. Adam1115

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    Is there any possibility that the new DirecTiVo boxes WON'T be leased?

    My understanding is that it's a complete violation of your directv contract to open up and tinker with the box (that the customer doesn't own), how will DVRUpgrade get around that?

    And will it be worth it to people who could just plug in an eSATA drive?
     
  12. tivoupgrade

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    At this stage of the game, anything is possible. Right now, DIRECTV DVR boxes can be leased, or purchased. I suppose its entirely possible that one of those two options will be taken off the table, but I can't imagine why they would not continue to offer things in a way similar to how they've been offering them. Anything is possible, I suppose.

    It's really all speculation right now. For all we know, these units may not be upgradable at all...

    Lou
     
  13. tivoupgrade

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    Many folks prefer to deal with a reseller vs the 1-800-DIRECTV number. We just dealt with a customer that spent hours on the phone with DIRECTV on an issue and was given the wrong information and advice. We were able to solve the problem in 15 minutes. Granted, the 1-800 number is available 24x7, but depending on who picks up the phone, and the type of problem you have, the quality of service can make a difference.

    Lou
     
  14. Adam1115

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    I was not aware that new HD-DVR's could be purchased. I thought everything with DirecTV was lease only.

    If that's the case, that makes sense.
     
  15. tivoupgrade

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    They've always had the option - but it is rarely taken (because it is so expensive). Not sure that there is much benefit to doing that, and then replacing a drive when it is so easy to add a drive using the eSATA connection.
     
  16. moab747

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    As the satisfied owner of an HR10-250 and the annoyed owner of an HR21-100 I have a few questions. Do the series 3 units use the sps codes like the HR10 and do you think the new Dtv Tivos will use them? Part of my problems with the HR21 would be solved with sps codes.

    Also anyone who has used both these units can tell a big difference in the display quality when using FF & RW. The Tivo is nice and smooth while the Dtv is choppy and laughable. Would you all think this is due to bad coding on the Dtv unit or just a function of the difference in decoding mpeg 2 vs mpeg 4? Would you expect the Tivo mpeg 4 to be as bad as the HR21?
     
  17. stevel

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    The difference you are seeing is MPEG2 vs MPEG4.
     
  18. shibby191

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    Correct. I highly doubt the new MPEG4 Tivo unit to be any/much better. Could be, but doubt it. Besides, I've always found this complaint funny anyway, who cares what the "quality" of a FFW3 is anyway? Just need to see when the program starts again after the commercial and it's more then fine for that. :)
     
  19. moab747

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    That would be unfortunate if the FF & RW were as bad as the Dtv along with all the other problems. The HR21 works fine for my wife and daughter. They press play, lay the remote down and pick it up when the show is over. For those of us who watch sports and use the remote its a pita. With the chunky replay, hitting play at the right moment is hit or miss. Those of us with the HR21 also know the unit responds to the remote when it feels like it not when you press a button. Except for the missing slo-mo button. Some of the other forums think that the Dtv units are the greatest and people like me who like the old Tivos are just fanatics. I am not a fanatic and I know my Tivo is not the latest or greatest but it WORKS. If as some suggest the Dtv unit cant be improved upon what would be the advantage in going to the new Tivo unit? If DVRupgrade ever came out with a way to add an mpeg4 decoder to my unit I would be the first to send it in.
     
  20. awesomeusername

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    that'll happen :rolleyes:
     

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