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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by w2jo, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. scottsh

    scottsh New Member

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    I thought I was saying the same thing? They aren't like Apple or other companies with a zero tolerance policy, they genuinely seem to like the enthusiasts promoting their platform. Like any company, they have to protect themselves or run the risk of losing ownership.
     
  2. lpwcomp

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    You said
    At best, they tolerate the development and use of the third party tools that enable us to do "all the cool thing we do with our Tivos". They provide zero support. The s/w that actually runs on the TiVo is locked down even tighter than anything Apple ever did.
     
  3. unitron

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    The TiVo specific proprietary software that they wrote certainly is, but the Linux part isn't.

    Of course to make a TiVo work, you need both.
     
  4. lpwcomp

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    John's...
    It's not so much the s/w I am talking about. The h/w now validates the s/w signature. They haven't gone so far as to validate it to the TSN level but it is no longer possible to install linux utilities.

    I bow to no one in my liking of TiVo in general. On a couple of occasions, they have done things for me that they were under no legal obligation to do. But don't try to tell me that they "support" the development and use of things like WinMFS or JMFS or pyTiVo. They don't.
     
  5. unitron

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    They support it to the extent that they used Linux and put themselves into a position where that stuff was possible and when they realized that they didn't become total 455hats about it. :)

    And considering that iOpener pretty much put themselves out of business by putting open source on subsidized hardware, thereby selling a bunch of machines from which they never got subscription revenue, I'd say they've been pretty good sports about it overall.
     
  6. lillevig

    lillevig Hot in West Texas

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    Might have avoided the aggrevation by booting off of a flash drive. I had the issue where I could boot off of the CD but it wouldn't mount the CD drive for actually imaging the drive. Then I found this link:

    http://www.dvrupgrade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1734
     
  7. unitron

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    What that thread fails to mention is that IC in many instances is looking for an IDE drive (/dev/hda, b, c, d, etc) and won't accept /dev/sd"x" as an argument, so you have to have a motherboard with an IDE header and an adapter to write to a SATA drive.
     
  8. lpwcomp

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    John's...
    I guess I have never really gotten over the time they forced sites that were hosting images to cease and desist. It was insane since the s/w is useless on anything except a TiVo, it wasn't source code, and anybody with a TiVo has access to it.

    I'm also a bit peeved that they won't reveal what criteria they use for deciding whether or not to use the programId* to set the metadata, particularly the Season and Episode numbers in the HDUI. Heck, they never even documented that's what they were using. I had to figure it out for myself.

    Not to mention that I'm peeved at AMC because, while they are showing the original(1947) "Miracle on 34th Street" numerous times, it is the colorized version.:mad:

    * in the XML, it is the <program> level <uniqueid>.
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    At least they didn't advertise Edmund Gwynne and run the Sebastian Cabot version instead.

    As much as I like Cabot, and Jane Alexander for that matter, I like to know what I'm getting ahead of time.
     
  10. lillevig

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    I ran the whole experiment using my laptop and a USB to SATA cable. Apparently IC recognizes devices connected via USB. Worked perfectly once I went to the flash drive method.
     
  11. unitron

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    I think it depends on IC for which model.
     
  12. shwru980r

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    For what you paid for the cachecard/turbonet card, keyboard and your time, you could have just bought a used S2 with lifetime service. What is the benefit of putting the Time an money into an S1?
     
  13. magnus

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    Agreed
     
  14. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Learning Experience!

    Or as the GP put it "I don't have enough aggravation..." :)
     
  15. WO312

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    Finger...
    A Tivo HD uses just 1 type M cablecard, or 2 type S. I doubt that anyone still supplies type S.

    You cannot get on-demand through a cablecard. If you want that, you will have to keep your cable box and use a different input on your TV to view it. AFAIK, on-demand cannot go through a Tivo HD.

    How are you watching on-demand now? Separate from your Series 2?? I don't remember anymore if a Series 2 has an IR blaster to control a cable box.
     
  16. cjgadd3

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    It does and I did. I had a Comcast STB and it worked pretty well. Then i got a Tivo HD and FIOS.
     
  17. poppagene

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    iirc the sat t60 is a first generation directv reciever. A used lifetime s2 is more likely a stand alone tivo.
     

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