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Dvr Backup And Restore Software for Windows (DvrBARS)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Jan 8, 2017 #1501 of 1592
    dougdingle

    dougdingle HD Tech

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    Great. You're welcome. Sometimes, the easiest solutions are the best.
     
  2. MisterMidnight

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    Unfortunately, replacing the HDD did not stop the random rebooting issue, although it now reboots less often than before the HDD swap.

    Have the series 4 Tivo's had power supply issues? The caps do not seem to be bad looking at them visually.

    Here is a close-up image of the PS:

    http://www.eresourcing.com/misc/Tivo_power_supply_01.jpg

    Would you suggest replacing the PS as the next step? If so, is Weaknees a good source?

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    (Premiere Elite XL4 TCD 758250 / 2TB HDD)
     
  3. dougdingle

    dougdingle HD Tech

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    I think you're on the right track, but of course it's difficult to know for sure.

    Is the fan spinning? If you spin it by hand, does it spin freely for a few seconds? If not, it may need replacing because a slow dying fan will allow the supply to heat up.

    I would reseat all the connectors from the power supply a couple of times - things tend to corrode over time - and see if the reboots stop.

    Weaknees seems to enjoy a decent reputation if you want to replace the power supply. There are less expensive ones available on ebay from time to time, but you never know if you're buying someone else's problems.
     
  4. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    I've never heard of a Series 4 power supply failing, but I guess nothing's impossible.
     
  5. jmbach

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    Would consider running a KS 58. Chances are that the bad drive induced some corrupt info that transferred to the new drive with the copy process. Depending on what is corrupted, a KS 58 is probably as close we can come to fixing it.
    On another note, if you have another 2TB drive, you could place a fresh copy of a Premiere OS on that drive with DvrBARS and run it in your TiVo for a while. If there are no random rebooting, it is less likely to be a power supply issue.
     
  6. MisterMidnight

    MisterMidnight New Member

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    I tried the KS 58, or at least I think I did. It didn't take much longer than a normal Tivo boot, and during the startup it said "installing update". Is this normal for KS 58, or does it go to a special screen for the HDD diagnostics?
     
  7. jmbach

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    That is normal. KS 54 does the hard drive test which I do not recommend running. The manufacturer diagnostic does a much better job.
     
  8. MisterMidnight

    MisterMidnight New Member

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    No luck with KS 58. Tried a brand new drive with fresh OS, no go. Still have the random reboot problem, 1-2x per day.

    I guess the next step would be to replace the power supply? If that doesn't solve the issue I assume it's something with the MB, in which it looks like I will have to sell it for parts.
     
  9. Feb 1, 2017 #1509 of 1592
    CoxInPHX

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    Is there a Post-Rovi conversion image for an XL4 - TCD758250

    I have an old virgin image pre-Rovi dated 04/19/13 which I received from Greg a long time ago
    Will that old image work w/o issues for restoring to a new 2TB HDD?
     
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  10. Feb 3, 2017 #1510 of 1592
    ggieseke

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    The old image still works fine with a 2TB drive. If you want to go larger than that I have a 20.4.1 image for a 758 around here somewhere.
     
  11. Fred H

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    I just replaced my (daily rebooting) 2TB HD in my Premier XL4 with a 3TB Red Pro HD; It's now constantly rebooting through blue screen, black screen Starting Up. Here's what I've done:
    1. Saved all my saved shows to my PC, photographed all season passes, etc.
    2. Removed all deleted shows from Tivo
    3. Fully tested the new drive with Data Lifeguard
    4. Modified Full backup with DvrBARS (also a Truncated backup just in case...)
    5. Quick Restore of the Modified Full backup with DvrBARS
    6. Installed the Red Pro in the Tivo; hooked up the wires, etc.
    When I put the original Tivo drive back in the Tivo so we could watch TV I initially had the same problem, but when I looked I found that I had neglected to plug in the drive! But the identical effect of this mistake makes me wonder if the Red Pro is incompatible with my Tivo.

    While a bit more Tivo storage would be nice, I have an almost-new 2TB Red drive in my PC and could use it in the Tivo -- and use the 3TB drive in my PC.

    I'd greatly appreciate advice.

    TIA
     
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  12. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    The WD Red Pro are 7200 RPM drives and shouldn't have been used in a Tivo. It would not benefit from the higher RPM. It also uses more power and create more heat than the non-pro drives. The constant reboots means the drive didn't get enough power for the full spinup to be accessed.
    Only the WD Red 5400 RPM drives should be used.
     
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  13. internetsoncomps

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    Can I get an image of TCD748000? Also, can I use DvrBARS to expand storage to 3tb or does it need to be a 3tb image?
     
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  14. Fred H

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    Thank you. I'll implement plan B when there's enough gap between scheduled recordings.
     
  15. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Use KMTTG, its a program used to download shows and other features. It also has the ability to backup and restore Season/One Passes and their options.

    As for my upgrade on the Roamio basic from the original 500gb to WD40EFRX, it took me a week, because I needed a USB adapter for a laptop which runs Win7. Prior to the final install of the 4TB, I kept the original drive in use. The re-install hardly took much time at all, 10 min I believe.
     
  16. MHunter1

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    I purchased a 4TB WD Blue HDD pre-formatted for a TiVo Premiere XL TCD746 on eBay for $75 which was half the price of the next competitor. The HDD works fine, but when I view its capacity under my XL4 TCD758's System Information it says "up to 400 HD hours or 3495 SD hours". The more expensive HDD claims a 4TB upgrade should provide up to 640 HD or 5608 SD hours. It's confusing because both HDDs are 4TB. Did the cheaper seller image the disk incorrectly causing it to use up more data per hour, or am I really getting 640 HD hours and the fact that it's showing 400 HD hours is just a cosmetic discrepancy?
     
  17. jmbach

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    I believe it was not imaged correctly. A WD blue in an unusual choice for a TiVo drive but not an unheard of choice.
     
  18. ggieseke

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    PM sent. DvrBARS doesn't do expansion and the TiVo software didn't support drives over 2TB until 20.3.8 came out, so you'll need a 1-2TB drive for the restore. Once it updates to the latest software you can copy and expand it to the 3TB drive with MFSTools 3.2.
     
  19. ggieseke

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    Truncated and Modified Full backups don't work on the latest OS since TiVo changed the filesystem on the Root partitions from Ext2 to SquashFS. I'm sending you my factory image, which should work fine on the 2TB drive.
     
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  20. internetsoncomps

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    As a side note, if I have 2 Premiere XLs and one is now working again could I image that drive to a hard drive for my other non-working XL using the DVRBars software? I don't know if I want to open the other box at this point since it is now working again but the thought just occurred. Also, on that one I have a AV Expander 1TB, but not on the other XL -moved that to my Roamio Pro. Would that complicate anything?
     

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