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Dvr Backup And Restore Software for Windows (DvrBARS)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Apr 15, 2013 #41 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    Wow. I've gotten close to 2TB before, but only by using the Truncated mode, excluding the alternate Root partition, and deleting the factory demo videos first. Pretty cool.
     
  2. Apr 15, 2013 #42 of 1474
    lessd

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    I am using the Truncated mode, however after doing a C&D all the backup image is 1Tb bigger !!, I am looking into that.

    If you want a P-4 image just PM me with your address and I will send one to you on a DVD.
     
  3. Apr 15, 2013 #43 of 1474
    GBL

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    Here's my current partition map:

    Code:
    Partition Maps
     #:                  type name                            length base      ( size  )
      1   Apple_partition_map Apple                               63@1         (  31.5K)
      2                 Image Bootstrap 1                          1@485366126 ( 512.0 )
      3                 Image Kernel 1                          8192@485366127 (   4.0M)
      4                  Ext2 Root 1                          524288@485374319 ( 256.0M)
      5                 Image Bootstrap 2                          1@485898607 ( 512.0 )
      6                 Image Kernel 2                          8192@485898608 (   4.0M)
      7                  Ext2 Root 2                          524288@485906800 ( 256.0M)
      8                  Swap Linux swap                      524288@486431088 ( 256.0M)
      9                  Ext2 /var                            524288@486955376 ( 256.0M)
     10                   MFS MFS application region          589824@487479664 ( 288.0M)
     11                   MFS MFS media region             216747657@268618469 ( 103.4G)
     12                   MFS MFS application region 2        589824@488069488 ( 288.0M)
     13                   MFS MFS media region 2           268618405@64        ( 128.1G)
     14                   MFS MFS App by Winmfs                 2048@488659312 (   1.0M)
     15                   MFS MFS Media by Winmfs         2147471360@488661360 (1024.0G)
    
    Total SA SD Hours: 1404	Total DTV SD Hours: 1226	 98 % Free
    Software: 11.0k-01-2-648	Tivo Model: TCD648250B
    What does your 2TB partition map look like?
     
  4. Apr 15, 2013 #44 of 1474
    jmbach

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    The partition map is exactly the same except the size of partition 15 is 1.6TB.
     
  5. Apr 15, 2013 #45 of 1474
    eriksson29

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    do u guys know where i can find an image for TCD746320 ??? my drive died on me
     
  6. Apr 16, 2013 #46 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    PM sent.
     
  7. Apr 16, 2013 #47 of 1474
    eriksson29

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    Hey thanks for your link im just having trouble downloading the image it startes but after awhile it fails idk if u can help me with that?
     
  8. Apr 16, 2013 #48 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    I'd try a different browser, make sure that you have enough disk space, and possibly even disable your antivirus during the download. The image is on Dropbox and they're very stable.
     
  9. Apr 16, 2013 #49 of 1474
    lew

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    I'm getting a new unit later this week. I'm trying to figure out what steps to take. My thought is to run guided setup, pair my cable cards, do enough connections to make sure my software is current, copy my SPs then do a truncated backup.

    Would there be any advantage to doing a full backup? At what step in the process?
     
  10. Apr 16, 2013 #50 of 1474
    jmbach

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    What unit are you getting. If it is new or an official factory refurbished unit I would do a full backup before powering on the unit. Then run through the guided setup which will update the software usually and then pair the CableCARD. Then do a truncated backup.
     
  11. Apr 16, 2013 #51 of 1474
    lew

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    New unit (XL4).

    What happens if we need to restore the software and the new drive is (slightly) smaller then the original drive. It may be ancient history but MFSTools had an issue if the new drive was (different mfg) smaller but by a difference that would otherwise be insignificant. Never had that problem in the past, always upgrading to a bigger drive.

    How long will this take with USB vs SA? Obviously no recordings.
     
  12. Apr 16, 2013 #52 of 1474
    retiredqwest

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    I would think that if you try to restore a 1.82TB file to a 1.81TB drive that the result will not be happy. Even JMFS will complain if you try to use a target drive that is even just a few bytes smaller.



    As far as backing up the XL4.... It took me 10 minutes via a USB 3.0 or a Esata external dock. The resulting file was 2.26GB and that compressed down to 1.1GB. USB 2.0 would probably take twice as long I'm guessing.

    It took 18 hours using JMFS to a second 2TB drive via a direct SATA connection.

    When I did the XL4 restore it was to a WD20EURS, got no complaint screen about target not having enough space.
     
  13. Apr 16, 2013 #53 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    Right now the new drive has to be at least as big as the source of the image, and not one sector less. Any drive that's too small won't have a right arrow in the target selection screen and if you try anyway it will just "bonk" you (assuming sound effects are turned on).

    Resizing the media partitions at will and moving partitions is my next major goal, but I wouldn't even begin to put an ETA on that.

    I doubt that it will become much of an issue. If memory serves that problem was mostly with one specific Maxtor model that they used for a while in some of the S2s. WD drives tend to be pretty consistent.
     
  14. Apr 16, 2013 #54 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    On my PC USB 2.0 was almost exactly 3 times slower than eSATA. 10 hours for a 1TB drive vs 3 hours, 20 minutes for a Full backup or restore. The chipset on my motherboard can't hack anything over 2.5Mbps anyway, so some folks with the right hardware should be able to cut that in half again.
     
  15. Apr 17, 2013 #55 of 1474
    lew

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    That suggests 20 hours for a 2T drive. We're talking about a drive without any recordings?
     
  16. Apr 17, 2013 #56 of 1474
    retiredqwest

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    Timings are so subjective.....

    In the first message of this thread it lists the 3 backup options and the 2 restore options.

    I have a 758 CD&E image that I created from my 4 month old 758, that is as close as I can get to a 'without recordings'. I created that file using the 'Full backup' option. It took 3 minutes to do the 'quick restore', far longer for the 758 to boot up to the setup screen. The 'Full Restore' will obviously take far longer as you are restoring the entire source to the target drive in this case 2TB.

    I used the above drive and did a 'Truncated Backup' and it took 5 minutes.
    Next I did the 'Modified Full' and that took 5 minutes.
    Doing a 'Full Backup' now..... get back to you tomorrow.....

    This is using my Blackx Dock connected via USB2.
     
  17. Apr 17, 2013 #57 of 1474
    lew

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    I must be missing something. Never used unit. What is the benefit to doing a full backup vs truncated?
     
  18. Apr 17, 2013 #58 of 1474
    lessd

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    You get your recordings with a full backup.
     
  19. Apr 17, 2013 #59 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    It just ensures that every last byte on the source drive has been read and recorded to the backup image in some way. I don't THINK that there would be any difference between a Full and a Modified Full backup when it comes to a drive straight from the factory, but without a lot more testing on various models it's impossible to be sure.

    In the early testing phase retiredqwest, jmbach and I ran a lot of really tedious backups and restores. For the average person I doubt that they will ever use anything but one of the much faster methods.

    At one point each of the 120GB drives in my Series 1 took about 8 hours for a truncated backup due to the byte swapping and some poorly thought out programming on my part. :eek:
     
  20. Apr 17, 2013 #60 of 1474
    lew

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    You think. My question was in regards to a unit which is new out of the box. Never been turned on.

    The suggestion by the author of the program was
    I got my answer. Probably not necessary but it could be useful.
     

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