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Dvr Backup And Restore Software for Windows (DvrBARS)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Feb 21, 2014 #461 of 1474
    ozzy1983

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    Well I would need the image first, but I think I understand what you're saying, and even if I only had 2TB at this point I just need it to work. It's been over a week of working back and forth to try to fix this thing.
     
  2. Feb 21, 2014 #462 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    I haven't tested it on a DirecTivo, but it's worth a try.
     
  3. Feb 21, 2014 #463 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    PM sent. You will have to restore it to a 2TB or less drive and let it update before it will boot at all. Once it updates from 14.5 to 20.3.7 or later you can explore further options.

    I don't really know the Linux side of things, so if a 3TB drive is your only option you'll have to get jmbach to talk you through hdparm.
     
  4. Feb 21, 2014 #464 of 1474
    ozzy1983

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    ozzy1983

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    Could you possibly write out the hdparm commands for that procedure?
     
  6. Feb 21, 2014 #466 of 1474
    jmbach

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    Sent you a PM for the commands. Let us know how it works for you.
     
  7. Feb 21, 2014 #467 of 1474
    rodnig1

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    I assume that it would work, but i am trying to go from a 1TB mechanical drive, to a 960GB ssd drive... and im getting the error that the drive is too small. So, i guess it simply wont work for my intended purpose.

    Unless anyone out there has a trick that i am not familiar with??
     
  8. Feb 21, 2014 #468 of 1474
    jmbach

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    Are you trying to save any recordings?
     
  9. Feb 21, 2014 #469 of 1474
    rodnig1

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    yes, i was trying to save some recordings. i wonder if i hooked it back into the tivo, and deleted a bunch of stuff that i don't care about then re-imaged it, if that would work.

    I also just tried to do the truncated option, and it still said it was too small
     
  10. Feb 22, 2014 #470 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    DvrBARS will only restore to a drive that's at least as big as the drive that was imaged in the first place. It's not related to the number of recordings.

    I'm working on a new program that will create an intact MFS filesystem on any size drive and copy everything from the old one, but it's probably months away. Even then, I don't know if downsizing will be worth all the extra code that it would require.
     
  11. Feb 22, 2014 #471 of 1474
    lpwcomp

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    I have a recent (12/08/2013) backup of a TCD746320 if that would help. it is @3.2GB. Zip is @1.6GB.
     
  12. Feb 22, 2014 #472 of 1474
    ozzy1983

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    yeah, so trying to turn off those sectors didn't work. I just got the 5 - 10 sec boot loop. So I was so frustrated I called Best Buy and found out I could swap the 3TB for a 2TB since it was less than 15 days since I bought it. However, after a quick restore on the 2TB, an expand using JMFS and a supersize I still got the 5 - 10 sec boot loop. So I'm trying again with a full restore, then boot in the tivo to update, then the expand and supersize.
     
  13. Feb 22, 2014 #473 of 1474
    jmbach

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    You should not be boot looping. Might want to try redownloading the image.
     
  14. Feb 22, 2014 #474 of 1474
    jmbach

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    What drive did you get

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
     
  15. Feb 22, 2014 #475 of 1474
    rodnig1

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    FYI: it does work for the directivo THR22-100. i messed around with another drive, and it appears to have worked fine.

    But, i originally had a 1tb installed, and tried it with a new 2TB and wasnt able to get the additional space allocated. Im sure its something i did wrong, so ill mess around a little more and try again
     
  16. Feb 22, 2014 #476 of 1474
    nooneuknow

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    For those who don't want to have (or buy) smaller capacity drives, on their way to getting to larger sizes, there is the hdparm way (hard for some), then the Hitachi Feature Tool way (easy for some):

    1. Hard way (for some) Use hdparm (linux utility) to set the drive's HPA (Host Protected Area), in order to make the device the drive is attached to believe it is a smaller size, then shrink (or eliminate) the size of the HPA, as needed. This makes the host device (computer or TiVo) think the drive is whatever size you have set the LBA number to represent. hdparm can be dangerous if not used correctly (a small typo can brick your drive).

    2. Easy way (for some) Use Hitachi Feature Tool bootable (DOS-based) bootable floppy, CD, or thumb drive are all options, to just change the LBA number to reflect the drive size you need at each step you need a change (can only be done by changing LBA, not typing in the capacity you want, due to limitations in the program). The LBA number you select needs to be offset by 1 (due to Hitachi FT starting with the first LBA as zero, or one, I forget which way it is offset from the way nearly anything else reads/sets LBA number).

    With both methods you want to specify "permanently" (or "persistent"), and each requires a reboot once you set the change (and requires a hard reboot if you change it to a value, apply the change, then realize you got it wrong and need to change it to another value). The change can be reversed/altered later, but you need the permanent/persistent part to make the drive retain the change with a soft and hard reboot.

    Words of warning: If you have ever had the drive connected to a computer/host that set a HPA area on the drive, you will notice a discrepancy in the true max LBA and what the drive reports. Please make sure to check for this before moving along to changing things. If you see the drive already has it's visible LBA count reduced, the first step is to check your BIOS for an option like "save backup copy of BIOS to HDD", and disable it, and then make sure that you don't have any backup (or drive/partition management) software installed that makes hidden and protected backups within a HPA the software creates. Paragon, and (I think) Acronis, can be set to do this.

    In many cases, you may have to change your BIOS settings to change drive(s) involved to "compatible/legacy mode", or Hitachi FT may not see it (in "AHCI/Windows mode").

    I've also learned that disabling automount, within windows, via diskpart, via command prompt, is a good idea when you want to insure Windows doesn't try to alter the drive(s). This helps insure Windows will only acknowledge the drive as being connected (hardware-layer-wise), without prompting you to "initialize" the drive, or it trying to assign drive letters/mount-points/etc. While doing this is usually not necessary, it's still added safety.

    You can also purge the cache of mount-points, drive letters, and related mappings for no-longer-attached drives while using diskpart at command prompt. Windows remembers every drive it ever mounted, even if you wipe all traces from the device manager with all hidden devices fully displayed.

    As always, don't forget that anything done within windows (and linux) will (most of the time) need to be done with an administrative account and/or elevated privileges.
     
  17. Feb 22, 2014 #477 of 1474
    ozzy1983

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    I got a WD Green 2TB. I've now loaded this on multiple drives and it boot loops on all of them. I've downloaded it twice and so I think it's the image. Is there another TDC748000 image out there I could try?
     
  18. Feb 22, 2014 #478 of 1474
    ozzy1983

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    Because I'll try anything at this point to get this thing running.
     
  19. Feb 22, 2014 #479 of 1474
    ThAbtO

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    Where does it start rebooting? Welcome screen? A few moments more screen?

    It may need WDidle3.exe and disable the Intellipark.

    It can be found on the Ultimate Boot CD.
     
  20. Feb 22, 2014 #480 of 1474
    ozzy1983

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    It runs for less that 30 seconds with the first "Starting up" screen, then the screen flashes and it starts it again.
     

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