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Dvr Backup And Restore Software for Windows (DvrBARS)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Feb 9, 2014 #441 of 1474
    TVisitor

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    Yeah - I was looking it up last night - it's almost as if it thinks the drive is not a fixed disk for some reason. There's no underlying disk management software running on this PC. I do have another PC to try it in - the only reason I hadn't tried it in there yet is because it's a bit hard to move that PC around (sitting on a table behind a TV). However, I did try running DVRBars on it, and it ran just fine. I'm going to try putting the new drive in it since I see that DVRBars didn't seem to have any issues on first shot.

    Edit: Successfully restored the image on my other PC. No errors. I'm willing to play around and test any debug versions you might want to see if it can run on the PC that failed with the error, though I won't put the "new" drive back in there since I successfully restored it (and don't want to clobber it). Feel free to PM me.
     
  2. Feb 9, 2014 #442 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    If you're happy I'm happy. Glad it worked on the other PC.

    Unless you have an overwhelming desire to play guinea pig it's probably best to accept success. I'd want to know exactly WHY it failed on the first computer (ignoring the error is too easy) and we both probably have better things to focus on for the next several weeks. :D
     
  3. Feb 17, 2014 #443 of 1474
    rgtv65

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    I have a Premier model TCD746320 that I recently replaced with a new TiVo Romeo, which I upgraded the HD to 2TB. The Premier was beginning to occasionally freeze on some DVR recordings, so I suspect the HD is going. I would like to still salvage the Premier to use in another room to replace an aging TiVo HD. Since I kept the OEM 500GB Seagate HD from the Romeo, my thought was to copy the image from the OEM Premier HD onto the the Romeo OEM drive. Since this will just be for spare room use, I don't necessarily need to expand to use the full 500GB, the original 320GB would be fine. What is the best, easiest method to accomplish this?
     
  4. Feb 17, 2014 #444 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    You can backup up your existing Premiere drive to a file using the Truncated or Modified Full mode, then restore it to the Roamio drive. Truncated backups usually only take about 2GB, but something in 20.3.8 is making them run about the same size as a Modified Full. Make sure you have about 320GB free on your computer.

    Alternatively I can send you a raw 746320 image and you can start over from scratch.

    Either way, you can expand it to use the full 500GB with jmfs.
     
  5. Feb 17, 2014 #445 of 1474
    rgtv65

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    Thanks very much for the response, ggieseke! I don't believe the HD has degraded to the point where the operating system is affected, however, the surest thing might be to burn the raw 746320 image as I have most of the recorded content backed up on TiVo Desktop anyway. Would I use DvrBARS to install the image? Any recommendations for installation and the image file would be greatly appreciated.
     
  6. Feb 18, 2014 #446 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    Check your PMs for a link to the image. Unzip it to extract the VHD file.

    Hook the new drive up to your Windows PC. Run DvrBARS, choose the Quick Restore option, and it should walk you through it from there. An internal SATA connection, eSATA, or a USB 3.0 dock is faster but an old USB 2.0 dock or adapter will work fine. The raw image is only a few GB so we're talking minutes, not hours.

    Run jmfs to expand it. You can skip this step but I've never heard anyone complain about more recording space.

    Grab a copy of kmttg and use it to back up the season passes on your old drive. This is also optional but you can restore them to the new drive later.

    Put the new drive in the Premiere. It will update the OS and run Guided Setup immediately, but you'll still have to run Clear & Delete Everything to "marry" the drive to the motherboard before it will work properly. That means another GS, so just blast throught the first one and don't sweat the details.

    P.S. There's a little-known feature in the DvrBARS System Information screen (the Donate button). :D

    Greg
     
  7. Feb 18, 2014 #447 of 1474
    rgtv65

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    Thank you, Greg, for the PM. I'll also look in the forums for the JMFS link.
     
  8. Feb 18, 2014 #448 of 1474
    rgtv65

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    DvrBARS worked perfectly, new HD installed and working at planned. Thanks for all your help, Greg. Also, I found the "little-known feature" on the program and employed it!
     
  9. Feb 18, 2014 #449 of 1474
    rgtv65

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    Thought I had everything working OK, but just discovered I cant record anything. Tried to transfer recordings from TiVo Desktop, nothing transfered, then tried recording a live broadcast, nothing. Just figured out how to "Clear & Delete Everything" under the help menu. Hopefully this and a re-boot will solve the problem? Noticed that under the "system info" it does not show the TiVo service tag number.
     
  10. Feb 18, 2014 #450 of 1474
    ThAbtO

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    Yes, you need to run Clear & Delete Everything after you put in a new image that was not from your original Tivo. This will register your Tivo service number to the image, and allow all Tivo functions.
     
  11. Feb 19, 2014 #451 of 1474
    rgtv65

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    Yep, ran the Clear & Delete and set up for the 3rd time and everything works and recording as it should.
     
  12. Feb 19, 2014 #452 of 1474
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    My XL (TCD748) drive went belly up on me and I can't find the stock drive. I'm attempting ddrescue but it doesn't look good. I do have a regular Premiere, though. Can I clone the regular premiere's drive and put that in an XL (losing the recordings, of course)? ggieseke seemed to imply that was possible, but I wanted to know if anyone had done it before I pull part the Premiere. Alternatively, does anyone have a virgin XL image?

    Thanks!
     
  13. Feb 19, 2014 #453 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    PM sent. The link is to an absolutely virgin 748 image. It was never powered on in the TiVo, so you may even be able to skip the C&DE.
     
  14. Feb 19, 2014 #454 of 1474
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    Thanks!

    I got some horrible clicking about half way through the ddrescue and I can't get anymore out of it. So now I'm using your image. I tried restoring it to a cheapo 3TB drive with a quick restore and got reboot loops. I'm trying again now with a full restore.

    Questions:
    Any ideas on the reboot loop (quick vs full restore)?
    Does it work to restore that image to a larger drive?
    If not, will a 2TB be ok? (I have a new WD Red 2TB coming but I want to make sure it will work before I open it)
     
  15. Feb 19, 2014 #455 of 1474
    jmbach

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    The boot looping is because OS on the virgin image does not support drives over 2TB in size. Once the virgin image gets updated to the latest OS, you can use it in drives over 2TB. If you are wanting to use it on a larger drive, first put the image on a drive no larger than 2TB and let the TiVo update the image. Once it is updated, then you can transfer it to a larger drive.
     
  16. Feb 19, 2014 #456 of 1474
    marwatk

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    Thanks, that was it! I tried it on an old 1TB and it's good to go. Phew, back up and running.

    -Marcus
     
  17. Feb 20, 2014 #457 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    Glad you got it working with jmbach's advice, and thanks for the donation. I crashed early last night.

    DvrBARS can only backup 2TB drives or smaller, but it can restore to anything. I used it as the first step in creating my 4TB XL.

    The Full restore option is mostly a leftover from early development. If you haven't run the manufacturer's diagnostics on the target drive it can act as a crude write test, but that's about it.
     
  18. Feb 21, 2014 #458 of 1474
    rodnig1

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    will this work with my thr22-100 directivo???
     
  19. Feb 21, 2014 #459 of 1474
    ozzy1983

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    My HD in my TCD748000 went out and I can't get a backup off of it. A link to a fresh image would be amazing since I've been trying to fix this for over a week. All I have is a new 3TB drive for it to go on. I assumed I could redo it with the expansion. Is there any way for me to get an image that would allow for the 3TB?
     
  20. Feb 21, 2014 #460 of 1474
    jmbach

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    The image ggeiseke has is of a virgin 748. If that is the image you have to use then the only way I can think of it working on a 3TB drive in your premiere is to use hdparm on the JMFS cd and permanently (but temporarily) change the visible sector count to a 2TB drive, run it in your premiere to let it update to the latest OS version, then use hdparm again to reset the sector to its natural size and then use JMFS to expand to the full 3TB capacity. (what I meant by permanently changing the sector count is that it has to survive power cycling of the drive.)

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
     

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