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Dvr Backup And Restore Software for Windows (DvrBARS)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Dec 1, 2013 #361 of 1474
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    DVRBars currently does not do Drive-to-Drive restores, only Drive-to-FileBackup and FileBackup-to-Drive restore. So, All you would need is a "Target" drive and an image file (and DVRBars program.)
     
  2. Dec 1, 2013 #362 of 1474
    Olamide

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    Ok, great thanks. Will give it a try waiting for the drive from amazon.

    Thanks
     
  3. Dec 2, 2013 #363 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    I haven't tried it on 8.1 but I don't expect any problems. If you don't open Disk Manager while the source drive is connected it shouldn't try to write a signature (that was only a problem on Win2K).

    The card reader problem was fixed a few days after the initial post. I would also disable the reader in BIOS if you don't plan to use it, but it's not a problem for DvrBARS anynore.

    A truncated backup should only take a few minutes even on a USB 2.0 connection. It's only reading about 2GB, especially if you go into settings and turn off the alternate root partition.

    A quick restore is about the same time as the backup. If you do a full restore it writes the entire drive with data or zeroes, so it's up to the connection speed. My PC has an old ICH10 chipset that doesn't support USB 3.0 speeds, so even on eSATA it takes about 3 hours/TB.
     
  4. Dec 2, 2013 #364 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    It scans the entire machine for drives at startup, so the target drive has to be attached before you run DvrBARS. The image can be anywhere that Windows recognizes (external, DVD, flash drive, etc).
     
  5. Dec 3, 2013 #365 of 1474
    DFWDave

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    Bought a TCD748 (Premier XL) back in Sept of 2011, and unlike the other 9 Tivo devices I've purchased since 2003 (including 2 S2s, 2 Minis, and 1 Stream), this is the ONLY one I purchased an extended warranty on.

    Of course, it expired less than three months ago, and right before my eyes this morning it went into the endless reboot of hard drive failure!

    It's also about the only one that I haven't replaced the hard drive in and have a backup for.

    I guess it's too late to make a long story short - looking for a factory backup image for a TCD748.

    Thanks
     
  6. Dec 3, 2013 #366 of 1474
    gls84

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    Thank you ggieseke! My Tivo Premier is back up and running. Had trouble with my cable card after fixing but Time Warner came and fixed their problem.

    Great tool set.

    Gary
     
  7. Dec 3, 2013 #367 of 1474
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Agree with the "great tool set" and the tremendous value ggieseke offers to the forum, with his FREE tool, FREE help, & FREE PMs to help you get your images, supported only by those who click on his PayPal link to make donations.

    However, you will always have to ask the cable company to send a pairing signal to your cablecard, if you use one, when installing a fresh, or donor image.

    A truck-roll should not be necessary, just calling the toll-free number on the screen that should come up automatically, or try the local number if that one doesn't work out (or the number doesn't work). Many cableco's now charge if they have to roll a truck for YOUR problem. Which, if your cable was working before you needed to image, is technically "your problem".

    I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm just posting something others should know, who find themselves here, and possibly save the cost of a "truck roll" to resolve a customer-related issue. A critical part of the pairing data for a cablecard is stored on the TiVo's hard drive. If the HDD fails, you lose it.

    In the phone-in method, which even cable techs must do (or do the equivalent online), sets of numbers from the cablecard screen on your TiVo are read to dispatch/operator and manually entered to send the pairing signal and re-write that lost bit on the hard drive.

    Sometimes the person who gets your call doesn't remember the last time they had to do this, if ever (other than training), or just is lazy and will push for a truck roll, to make it not their job anymore, to do a very simple task.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2013 #368 of 1474
    Olamide

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    Hi ggieseke,

    Thank you very much. Was able to restore, expand and backup the new harddisk. Thanks so much for you hardwork.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2013 #369 of 1474
    lillevig

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    That may be true in some cases but not all. I've never had to do that with my cable company (Suddenlink) when installing a new drive in a box using a CableCard so I'm thinking that maybe they marry the card to the MAC address of the box. I have had to remarry the card when I've moved it to a different box.
     
  10. Dec 7, 2013 #370 of 1474
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    I intentionally posted accurate info for the person's post (which named TWC as the MSO), to which I was replying to, as well at ~90%+ of other cable markets, and then decided it might be fun to wait and see when how long it would take for somebody in the ~2% of cable markets that don't require pairing, at all, to correct me. Not really, I was just trying to be brief (which isn't easy for me).

    Some markets only require it if you have elective "packages" of channels in the lineup, some only require it if you subscribe to premium channels, etc....

    Now, let's see how many people want to argue market percentages (actually, please, lets not).

    Cox, in my market, is so tightly locked-down, that If I have two identical model & size drives, one being in the TiVo, with the cablecard paired, and I clone the drive to the blank identical drive (with only a different drive serial number), the pairing comes undone.

    People dispute this is possible, and claim that there's no way the cablecard could know the HDD S/N. I've replicated it so many times, on three generations of TiVos, with virtually every known method of cloning (including DD type sector-by-sector / forensic cloning), that nobody is going to convince me that I'm "doing something wrong" (which I've been told, many times) as being the reason why the cloning, including the pairing data, doesn't keep the cablecard paired, in my market.

    You are correct, in that the MAC addresses are in the pairing data, in one form or another. In my market, so are the serial numbers (which other than the hard drive, which doesn't have a MAC address, is mostly just redundant).
     
  11. Dec 8, 2013 #371 of 1474
    lessd

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    On Comcast CT if you take a CC that is pared with TiVo-A and put it in another TiVo, than put it back into the original TiVo-A the CC will be unpaired as the data changes, I have done this so I know, and it was confirmed by the Comcast Tech.
     
  12. Dec 12, 2013 #372 of 1474
    BDM351

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    Twin...
    Thanks to the developers of DvrBARS. I find it easy to use.
    I Need a .vhd file for a SVR-2000 with a 30GB drive.
    I have a question. I have an old SVR-2000 that I need to image a drive for (30GB or 40GB drives). The one back up that I have is from a 80GB drive. I found a .tbk file...how do I convert .tbk file to .vhd file?
     
  13. Dec 12, 2013 #373 of 1474
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    .tbk is a WinMFS backup file, so use that free program instead.
     
  14. Dec 12, 2013 #374 of 1474
    BDM351

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    Twin...
    Turns out the .tbk file I had was no good.
    I still need an image for a SVR-2000 for a 30GB or 40GB HD
     
  15. Dec 12, 2013 #375 of 1474
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    This backup is from a 80gb drive as you stated earlier, so it needs a drive at least 80gb or larger.
    Please explain what happened to determine the backup file was bad.
     
  16. Dec 12, 2013 #376 of 1474
    BDM351

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    The original drives are a 30GB Quantum fireball lct10 series and a 40GB MaxtorD540X-4K

    the .tbk file I located on this site doesn't work Winmfs give me the error message "Not a valid backup file" when trying to restore it to a drive. This was to a 80GB WD drive
     
  17. Dec 13, 2013 #377 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    The only SVR-2000 image I have is from a box running dual 120GB drives. You could probably restore just the A drive image and then use WinMFS to divorce it, but you would need at least one drive that big and I've never tried it.
     
  18. Dec 16, 2013 #378 of 1474
    DFWDave

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    Thanks to ggieseke for the TCD748 image. Before attempting that, I did try a Hail Mary and tried a quick backup and restore of my failing drive to the new drive. It did boot in the Tivo, but at random times during the downloading guide data, it would just reboot.

    I figured it was corrupted software from the other hard drive or something, so I moved on to the clean image provided. When booting from that one, it gets stuck on the second boot up screen. When I say stuck, I mean overnight, not just 10-15 minutes.

    Possibly something more than just the hard drive failing in this unit?







     
  19. Dec 16, 2013 #379 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    Have you run the new drive through the full manufacturer's diags, checked the cables you're using to copy and the ones in the TiVo, and probably a few other things?

    You might also try the clean 748 image again, but keep the network disconnected until it's fully set up. If it's trying to make the jump from 14.5 to 20.3.7 while everything else is going on...
     
  20. Dec 16, 2013 #380 of 1474
    DFWDave

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    Haven't done full mfg diags, but the drive initially came up from my (failing) image.

    Point I didn't try and definitely should is leaving network disconnected. I am also re-downloading the clean image in case it was corrupted the first time.

    While the image is downloading, the Tivo is running a SMART test on the new drive, now about 50% through the Extended test.
     

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