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Dvr Backup And Restore Software for Windows (DvrBARS)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. Aug 14, 2013 #281 of 1474
    ggieseke

    ggieseke Active Member

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    I don't have any Series 3 images except for one 652 that was already expanded to 2TB. Did you mean 748?
     
  2. Aug 14, 2013 #282 of 1474
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    I think he means the S3 oLED.
     
  3. Aug 14, 2013 #283 of 1474
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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  4. Aug 17, 2013 #284 of 1474
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    Keeping your images clean, while allowing a software update. Here's how:

    1. Leave the coax inputs disconnected.

    2a. When you begin Guided Setup, if it's available, select Installer Express Setup.

    2b. If the software is still old, it may not be available, just continue on, but select Cable Only.

    2. Enter 00000 as your Zip Code.

    3. Select "Tiny TiVo" under digital lineup (doesn't matter what you have)

    4. If it asks about a cablecard, just say to worry about it later, and use the digital lineup anyway.

    5. This will speed you through as fast as possible, while updating the software, and downloading minimal guide data (which is really empty entries).

    6. If you have a cablecard installed, it may actually increase the amount of disk data that gets changed, and that DVRBARS will back-up. This gets worse if you have the coax connected, but still minimized, because the TiVo won't be automatically tune to any valid channel.

    7. Yes, if you need to, you can pair a cablecard with this configuration (but you'll need to insert the card and connect the coax.

    Hope this helps! I've never seen anybody post about this before, anywhere.

    EDIT/ADD: Look for the next post from me to find out how to eliminate the need for the recipient of a pre-imaged drive, or drive image, from having to do a C&DE.

    I'll add it here as well. Here's the trick:

    When you are all done on your end, with everything else, do a C&DE, and have the time to babysit the TiVo. Once it finishes the C&DE, it will do another reboot (without ever fully booting all the way, throughout this). PROMPLY pull the power cord as soon as all the lights flash (after the C&DE screen is done), or within seconds of the "Welcome Powering Up" screen comes on (once it gets to "Just a few minutes more", it is too late). This will stop the drive from bonding itself to the TSN of the TiVo it is currently in, and will eliminate the need for a C&DE by the person who receives the drive, or the image made from it.
     
  5. Aug 17, 2013 #285 of 1474
    gsjmia

    gsjmia New Member

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    Hi, I have a brand new Premiere 4, lifetime subscription with a WD500AVDS and I am trying to upgrade using DVRBARS to a 2TB WD20EURS (manuf May, 2013).

    I copied the disk and it works fine, it boots and plays and all shows are there, but I can't get it to expand or supersize. The new drive shows the same recording capacity.

    I tried running the linux JMFS-rev104.iso on a bootable CD but it fails-says it can't open the CDROM.

    So I put put in on a USB stick, and it boots and loads JMFS, but then it says that it can't find any Tivo drives. At the time, the Tivo drive is the only drive on the PC. Tried both the factory drive and the copied WD20EURS, same result, even though both of them boot and work fine on the Tivo.

    I am doing this on an ASUS P8Z68-V Pro mobo with Win 7-64.

    I have dos command line experience, but unfortunately zero linux.

    Thanks for any help or suggestions.
     
  6. Aug 17, 2013 #286 of 1474
    gsjmia

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    Hi, I have a brand new Premiere 4 with a WD500AVDS and I am trying to upgrade using DVRBARS to a 2TB WD20EURS (manuf May, 2013).

    I copied the disk and it works fine, it boots and plays and all shows are there, but I can't get it to expand or supersize. The new drive shows the same recording capacity.

    I tried running the linux JMFS-rev104.iso on a bootable CD but it fails-says it can't open the CDROM.

    So I put put the JMFS iso on a USB stick, it loads and runs, but then it says that it can't find any Tivo drives. At the time, the Tivo drive is the only drive on the PC. Tried both the factory drive and the copied WD20EURS, same result, even though both of them boot and work fine on the Tivo.

    I am doing this on an ASUS P8Z68-V Pro mobo with Win 7-64. This motherboard has a mixture of SATA 2 and 3 plugs, I haven't checked which the drive is plugged into, will that matter?

    Thanks for any help or suggestions.
     
  7. Aug 17, 2013 #287 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    I'd stick with the SATA-2 ports, but that's about the only thing I have to offer. The linux distro that jmfs uses may not understand newer hardware, but that's only a wild-assed-guess.
     
  8. Aug 17, 2013 #288 of 1474
    jmbach

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    If you cannot get the to work by moving to a different SATA port, try a USB to SATA plugged into a USB 2 port. JMFS does not recognize any USB 3 ports. At least as far as all the USB 3 ports I have tested.
     
  9. Aug 17, 2013 #289 of 1474
    nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    Cox Cable...
    Eliminate the need for a C&DE by the person who receives the drive, or the image:

    Here's the trick:

    When you are all done on your end, with everything else, do a C&DE, and have the time to babysit the TiVo. Once it finishes the C&DE, it will do another reboot (without ever fully booting all the way, throughout this). PROMPLY pull the power cord as soon as all the lights flash (after the C&DE screen is done), or within seconds of the "Welcome Powering Up" screen comes on (once it gets to "Just a few minutes more", it is too late). This will stop the drive from bonding itself to the TSN of the TiVo it is currently in, and will eliminate the need for a C&DE by the person who receives the drive, or the image made from it.
     
  10. Aug 18, 2013 #290 of 1474
    gsjmia

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    Thanks jmbach, this worked. I dug out my mobo manual and I was wrong earlier, I have SATA 3 and 6 (not SATA 2 and 3, must have missed something the last 5 years). I checked all the other PC's in the house and they were all SATA 3 or 6.

    I remembered I had an old IDE external clamshell SATA/USB thingy, so after locating a USB A/B cable, hooked it up and within 2 minutes it was done.

    Thanks to everyone.

    Greg
     
  11. Aug 19, 2013 #291 of 1474
    Stumptown Geek

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    I did, and thanks to the link in your next post it's back in business.
     
  12. Aug 20, 2013 #292 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    If anyone gets a new Roamio, PLEASE consider running a DvrBARS full backup on the drive before you ever power up the box.

    Back to the drawing board...
     
  13. Aug 20, 2013 #293 of 1474
    jmbach

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    Especially that 3TB version. Would like to see that block structure to see how they expanded beyond 2TB.
     
  14. Aug 20, 2013 #294 of 1474
    unitron

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    You're welcome.
     
  15. Aug 28, 2013 #295 of 1474
    geekbrain

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    max signed 32 bit integer = 7F FF FF FF = 2,147,483,648 bytes
    max unsigned 32 bit integer = FF FF FF FF = 4,294,967,296 bytes

    I thought the 2TB limit had to do with hardware available at the time and possibly the OS not supporting an unsigned integer. I don't see a reason why it can't go to 4TB (other than high cost of drives).

    The total sector count in partition 10 is actually a 64 bit entry - future goal of > 4TB???
     
  16. Aug 29, 2013 #296 of 1474
    gold007eye

    gold007eye Since TiVo Series 1

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    Does anyone know where I can find a dvrBars image for 648 Series 3 OLED TiVo? My drive kicked the bucket before I was able to save it and I'm dead in the water.
     
  17. Aug 29, 2013 #297 of 1474
    ThAbtO

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    There isn't a DVRBars image for the TCD648250B, but there is a WinMFS and MFSLine version.
    DVRBars does not even expand yet.

    If you had bothered to look up a few posts on this page, you would see the same post with the same links.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8921060#post8921060
     
  18. Aug 29, 2013 #298 of 1474
    ggieseke

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    I have a 648250 image at home, but it's identical to the 648 WinMFS image that's already out there in many posts.

    In the useless information department, it's not hard to convert if you have Windows 7. In Disk Manager, create a blank dynamic VHD that's exactly the same size as the drive that the WinMFS image came from, but don't let Disk Manager initialize it. Use WinMFS to restore to the virtual drive, then dismount it.
     
  19. Sep 7, 2013 #299 of 1474
    guustseo

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    I have a perfect image of a TCD748000 Premiere XL straight from the factory. I also have a nearly pristine TCD746320 Premiere image, but it's larger because it came from a drive that had already been through one upgrade. If you have a "virgin" drive laying around somewhere, run a full backup and send me a PM. Someday I hope to have clean images of every recent model available to the community.

    Donate if you can. An awful lot of time and money has gone into this project so far, and the 100GB Dropbox account I set up for the images wasn't free either.

    KUDOS:

    Two members here (retiredqwest and jmbach) deserve a LOT of thanks and a big chunk of the credit. Their support and patience made it possible.

    The pioneers who developed mfstools and jmfs also have my deepest thanks. DvrBARS is an entirely new work, but the basic knowledge of the MFS file system came from them.

    AND FINALLY:

    I'll shut up now. If you have any problems (and there are bound to be some) post the details here.

    Enjoy!
    Greg[/QUOTE]

    I have a TIVO TCD540140 WITH A NEW 120g MAXTOR DRIVE, do you have a clean image of this drive?
     
  20. Sep 7, 2013 #300 of 1474
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    DVRBars may work on a Series 2 but its doubtful. Also it does not expand to take full use of the extra space.

    Go here and you would need to use either MFSLive or WinMFS.
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=9160085#post9160085
     

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