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Drive upgrades in a Premiere unit?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jcostom, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Nov 7, 2010 #1121 of 1486
    comer

    comer New Member

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    Just like it was - Supersize can be applied at any time. So just connect your drive, boot and choose "Supersize" from the menu :)
     
  2. Nov 7, 2010 #1122 of 1486
    lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    I just tried it on my 2Tb disk in my TPXL and the record hours went to 317 from 301. This did not change any of the stuff on the hard drive (programs etc.)

    Super great job Comer
     
  3. Nov 7, 2010 #1123 of 1486
    Cspot

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    That's good to hear...doing an upgrade to 2tb this week.
     
  4. Nov 8, 2010 #1124 of 1486
    joesebastian

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    Just ran supersize on a TP 2TB drive. Just awesome!!:)

    Before SS:
    290 HD or 2543 SD hours in Tivo system Info
    22% recording percentage showing in My Shows

    After SS:
    317 HD or 2779 hrs in Tivo sys info
    20% in my shows

    Thanks Comer for your excellent work!!!

    Joe
     
  5. Nov 8, 2010 #1125 of 1486
    harry99

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  6. Nov 8, 2010 #1126 of 1486
    lickwid

    lickwid New Member

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    Good job Comer. I'll have to give it a shot in the coming days. Hopefully won't have to crack my TiVo open after this.
     
  7. SMWinnie

    SMWinnie Dis Member

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    I've read the thread twice and I'm not sure there's an authoritative answer. Is there any advantage in a Premiere to the EVDS over an EARS with AAM set to 128?
     
  8. comer

    comer New Member

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    If you do not consider "tuned for Audio/Video always-on applications" (EVDS) an advantage - then no.
     
  9. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    To add my two-cents...in TiVo's case? No.
     
  10. davidahn

    davidahn New Member

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    7 TiVo Premieres ($199 x 7 = $1400) plus lifetime service even at their current special of $199 each = $2800. Are you made of money, or is there a way to transfer your lifetime membership without paying TiVo?

    I have a SINGLE S3 I was going to upgrade to 2 Premieres but didn't want to pay to transfer S3 to S4 (and waste the S3's lifetime). Is there something I'm missing?

    David
     
  11. wesbc

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    Does that mean Advance Format Drive is ok to use. So with an EARS drive, do we need to set the jumper or leave it as it is setup to use advance formating?

    Thanks
     
  12. simon7

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    Thanks for the reply Rich. Based on your advice I was holding off on the 2TB Samsung drive, but caught it on sale for $59 from Newegg (Shell-shocker w/coupon code that was gone quick!). It just got here, and I'm really tempted to try it in the Premiere (otherwise it will be for backup). I just formatted it and tried a few file copies and it is already very quiet and under Windows. Not sure if I should try to mess with AAM using the Hitachi tool or just leave well enough alone.

    BTW, the overall feedback on the preferred WD seems average, but it hit a patch where everything went very, very negative. Maybe they had a production run problem. So far the Samsung drive has been above average, with but with less history. I hear what you are saying though about long-term reliability on the WD drives. I have a 1TB WD in my THD and it has been absolutely great -- but I really think it can be model specific.
     
  13. tcfcameron

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    There have been reports of people using the AF (EARS) drives without any problems. I haven't seen one instance, thus far, of anybody being unsuccessful, in using them.

    That jumper is a subject I have not seen (or just can't recall it) being discussed here at TCF.

    One very important thing about that jumper: Once the jumper is installed, it must remain installed for the rest of the drive's life.

    It is also described as being there as a way to provide full compatibility, and partition alignment, with Windows XP. There is no mention of using the jumper for other partition types.

    So, I would strongly advise against using the jumper, if the drive is ever to be used in a TiVo. I'd even advise against using it under any other circumstances, since there is a bootable alignment utility CD available, that won't make permanent changes to the drive and limit what you can use it for in the future.

    I skimmed the WD website before posting this, to make sure I was recalling correctly. Have a look, here: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/advancedformat/
     
  14. richsadams

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    No jumpers, as is.
     
  15. wesbc

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    Hi, thanks for the detail info. I have an HP media smart running WHS which does not support the advance format and the jumper is required for optimum performance as the alignment software doesn't quite work with WHS. I'm aware that current os Vista and Windows 7 supports the advance formating and with the older os the jumper or alignment utility must be used for optimum performance. Just wasn't sure about TIVO. But with so many reporting success without the jumper I guess that is the way to go.
     
  16. Cspot

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    Another successful upgrade thanks to Comer's work.

    Used the wd20ears, wdidle3'd the drive, then copied, expanded, supersized (rev104) in roughly 2 1/2 hours, result 317 hrs.
     
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    That's a heck of a deal compared to what I paid in the Spring.

    How does one get the $199 Lifetime? I still have one box on monthly(the rerst are lifetime). I plan on selling an XL with Lifetime and keeping the regular Premiere and getting Lifetime on it.

    EDIT: I didn't realize they were still only charging me $6.95 a month with no commitment. I thought it was supposed to be $9.95 a month.
    Since it's only $6.95 a month I might as well keep it on monthly unless I can convince them to give me Lifetime for $150. Otehrwise at $6.95 a month it will take me 3.5 years to break even if I paid for Lifetime at $300. even at $200 it would take almost 2.5 years.

    I guess I'll be selling one XL, staying on monthly, and upgrading the drive to 1TB.

    Although I want to make sure I keep two boxes with the original drives that have been untouched.
     
  18. innocentfreak

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    Some people who have the $199 upgrade offer for lifetime on their account have been successful talking TiVo reps over the phone into applying it to hardware bought elsewhere.
     
  19. dshlyam

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    Well, considering that I can sell S3 with 2,777 hours and lifetime for about $600 each on eBay, it's essentially a wash, even after overhead. In fact I even have a $50 left over for a keyboard remote.
     
  20. dshlyam

    dshlyam New Member

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    A success!!!

    With comer's help in about 5 minute time I have added another 2tb and SuperSize and I have how 5,605 SD hours (640 HD hours) Tivo!

    As expected, with 70% of utilization shown in UI before a second upgrade (w/ 2tb internal only) now with 4tb I see a full bar and -290%. Considering that this feature was not available before Premier anyway and I managed for the last 10 years somehow, I can live with this. I will probably pester Tivo to fix it. They don't have to, but just may.

    Thank you comer for your hard work! It's very much appreciated.
     

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