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Drive upgrades in a Premiere unit?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jcostom, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. rushtrader

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  2. richsadams

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    Wow! You obviously did not go to enough concerts in your younger days! ;)
     
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    +1 on that one!
    I wish I could hear well enough for a ticking watch to bother me.

    Even though I'm an old fart my hearing is still pretty good, but a ticking watch is like dog hearing.
     
  5. richsadams

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    What? :p
     
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    comer

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    I think I know why commercial providers stopped selling two-drive kits. I may have hit the same snag here while verifying end-to-end functionality :(

    The problem is that when I add an external drive to the expanded supersized internal drive, Tivo shows used space as a negative percentage :eek: (You can only see the used space bar in HD UI). I don't know if it has any repercussions further or it's just a UI bug. The total space is reported correctly in system info though.

    I have to investigate if supersize has anything to do with that or it is (may be) a Tivo limitation (feature/bug) on the total disk space. If supersize is the reason, than I'll have to postpone the release. If not - I will remove "Add external" functionality and will release without it.
     
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    aaronwt

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    isn't that just a UI bug?
    if so I'm sure they will fix it. You can't have people showing a negative pecentage of available space so you would think that would be a priority to fix.
     
  8. Nov 1, 2010 #1108 of 1486
    tcfcameron

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    Something odd has been going on, for sure. Nearly immediately after the Premiere could be bought, the upgrade sites were selling them with 4TB (2+2). Then it was only 2TB internal, last I checked it was 2TB (1+1).

    I don't know if maybe it has something to do with the availability and/or costs of the drives, or if they have been having problems. I'd be worried if I was one of the people who bought any of the previous configurations.

    Perhaps somebody who truly knows what is going on could step in? We could speculate on possibilities, rumors, and sheer guesses for months here, otherwise.
     
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    comer

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    That's what unclear at this point.

    I am not sure about this even if it is a UI bug. Tivo does not officially support anything higher than 1T (XL internal) + 1T (My DVR Expander). I don't have 1T drives, so I can not try, but I have a feeling that it would work without this problem.
     
  10. Nov 1, 2010 #1110 of 1486
    comer

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    I scoured all the usual suspects and there are only single internal upgrades up to 2T available now. I would be interested to know what happens if somebody who got one of those plugged in My DVR Expander as well :rolleyes:
     
  11. Nov 1, 2010 #1111 of 1486
    comer

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    Yep, supersize just became a number 1 suspect :( Just expaned and added 2T internal + 320G external with no supersize. Used space bar shows 14% just as it's supposed to (I had 99% of 320G full). Supersized that combination - shows -13% :( I'll prove it conclusively after I try 2T + 1.5T. But it's 90% certain at this point.
    Do not panic, I have some ideas ;)
     
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    richsadams

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    Awesome work...difficult as it is, we all appreciate it! :up: :up: :up:
     
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    aaronwt

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    And that is what really sucks. I got hearing damage in one ear around 5 or 6 years ago because I could not find my sonic earplugs. So like a dumbass I went without any hearing protection. I figured a normal concert at 60 minutes would be fine, but the one we went to lasted over 2.5 hours and I ended up with the hearing damage to that ear since it was directly facing where all the sound was coming from.
    So even though that one ear has hearing damage, the frequencies put out by the hard drives and fans are unaffected in that ear which is really annoying.
     
  14. Nov 2, 2010 #1114 of 1486
    lessd

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    This may have been covered in 1000 or so posts in this thread but I just used your tool to expand a TPXL to 2Tb, took 7 hours to copy the original 1Tb disk but the expand worked without any flaws and the TPXL booted up having 301 HD record hours (some 2500 SD record hours). It's run overnight without problems. The TPXL has 14.6 software.
    As with others thanks so much for your great work on this Comer.
     
  15. Nov 2, 2010 #1115 of 1486
    comer

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    Enjoy :)
     
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    aaronwt

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    I think it might be time to replace some more of my 1.5TB drives in my WHS.
     
  18. Nov 4, 2010 #1118 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Nice Les...congrats!
     
  19. Nov 6, 2010 #1119 of 1486
    comer

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    I have released jmfs with Supersize.
    I am pretty sure Supersize is not responsible for the negative percentage of Used Space Bar. Basically, Tivo has a problem with any extent larger than 2TB. Be it a single drive internal or external, or logical partition. In my experiment with 2TB+320G drives, the total space available for recordings without Supersize was a little smaller than 2TB, actually (TivoClips, not been restricted, take 10% of the recording space). With Supersize (TivoClips restricted to 10G) the total space was just over 2TB.
    I don't think we can do anything here, besides pressing Tivo for update. And I highly doubt they will do anything about it, so if you want everything to work correctly - you are limited to 2TB for the time being. However, I think this negative space glitch is pretty harmless. I recorded a few shows, it went from -13% to -15%, but recordings played fine. Let me know if you want to experiment and contribute to long-term test study - I'll show you how to add an external drive ;):D
     
  20. Nov 7, 2010 #1120 of 1486
    jbell73

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    Very cool! Thank you for the hard work.

    Quick question - If someone has already done the upgrade, and they use the updated JMFS boot CD to just enable the supersize feature, or is this only for new drive upgrades?

    -Jeff
     

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