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Drive upgrades in a Premiere unit?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jcostom, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Sep 30, 2010 #841 of 1486
    comer

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    I think floppy is your best bet in this regards. They always start their utility automatically, but changing autoexec.bat on a floppy is very easy. Also, there are a number of DOS disks on http://www.bootdisk.com/, check them out, may help.

    It should. You will also need to power your drive.
     
  2. Sep 30, 2010 #842 of 1486
    retiredqwest

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    Anyone try this software with a S3 or THD?? Or will it not work.... or blow up later.
     
  3. Sep 30, 2010 #843 of 1486
    richsadams

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    I tried running it with a Series3 OEM drive and the programg didn't recognize the hard drive. It did recognize my Premiere XL's hard drive however so it doesn't look like it will work with an S3 at least.
     
  4. Sep 30, 2010 #844 of 1486
    retiredqwest

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    It worked for me on my THD 160 gigger to a Seagate 1.5 TB. Booted up and showed 215 hrs HD.

    Its running right now to a 2TB.....

    will report back later....
     
  5. Sep 30, 2010 #845 of 1486
    retiredqwest

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    And I really meant to leave this in this thread.... http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=455968

    Thought I did....

    If an Admin wants to move this as this conversation has nothing to do with S4.

    Either way I'll continue over there.

    Scotty
     
  6. Sep 30, 2010 #846 of 1486
    zordude

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    I don't have a WD20EARS, I have a WD20EVDS, and yes it is working fine. When I booted the cd the idle timeout was the default (8) and now it is "DISABLED".

    Z
     
  7. Sep 30, 2010 #847 of 1486
    comer

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    15EARS worked here as well.
     
  8. Oct 1, 2010 #848 of 1486
    jbell73

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    WD20EARS and WD10EARS both worked fine with this application, but version 1.03. I'm sure either version would work fine when used as described earlier in this thread.

    I think this is just a CYA maneuver from WD.

    -JBell73
     
  9. Oct 1, 2010 #849 of 1486
    kturcotte

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    The 2TB EVDS drives work just fine too right?
     
  10. Oct 1, 2010 #850 of 1486
    jbell73

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    So I would say "Yes", but no first hand experience.
     
  11. Oct 2, 2010 #851 of 1486
    richsadams

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    My experiment was on an iMac. Since it did recognize the Premiere drive but not the S3's, it probably has to do with the S3's structure, but it could also have something to do with jmfs being run on an iMacÂ…doesn't seem likely, but it's possible.
     
  12. Oct 2, 2010 #852 of 1486
    jmill

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    Both Series 2 and Series 3 see hard drive as PATA, so tools like MFS and WinMFS work.

    TiVo Premiere sees hard drive as SATA, so tools had to be modified. As such, they're not compatible with older TiVo units.
     
  13. Oct 2, 2010 #853 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Makes sense. :up: Then that means that jmfs sees the HD/HDXL drives as SATA as well.
     
  14. Oct 2, 2010 #854 of 1486
    Shagger

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    Some weirdness here, I want to use widle3 so I am trying to boot with the DL Diags disk and my computer hangs as its recognizing the WD20EARS drive. Do I need to set some sort of jumper or what?
     
  15. Oct 2, 2010 #855 of 1486
    joesebastian

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    I was able to disable the idle timer by running wdidle3 on WD15EARS. I created a dos boot usb thumbdrive using Hiren bootcd. If you search for it on google he has step by step instructions to create the usb drive. I learned the hard way that if you have RAID enabled in the bios wdidle3 does not recognized the hard drive. Disable RAID for it to work.
    No jumper needed.
     
  16. Oct 2, 2010 #856 of 1486
    Shagger

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    Hmmm - well I guess lots of people with my board have had similar issues with the newer large SATA drives.

    http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?board_id=1&model=A7N8X+Deluxe&id=20081121051515015&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

    Looks like a BIOS flash is in order... Nothing like a quick 5 minute project! :O Sigh, I am sure Comer's utility will be easier than this! :)
     
  17. Oct 2, 2010 #857 of 1486
    hotoru

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    Thanks to comer and the others on this forum I have finished upgrade. Things went pretty smooth after some initial difficulty getting wdidle3 (finally borrowed friends PC). Here were the steps I used for anyone else as thick as am I.

    -Buy a WD20EARS 2TB Drive
    -Get a PC box where you can open and access SATA connection
    -Check BIOS (on booting) and make sure CD or Floppy is before hard drive in boot order
    -Get boot disk (floppy or CD) and burn to disk using Mac or Windows
    -Download WD tool and copy/burn to CD/Floppy/or USB Key
    -Download Comer's copy tool from here. (the *iso.zip version). Unzip then burn ISO as CD (same as above).
    -Make sure your WD20EARS hard drive connected to SATA port on motherboard.
    -Put bootdisk CD in drive and boot PC to CD
    -Insert media with WDidle3 tool and run with argument "wdidle3 /d" (sans quotes) to disable intellipark feature that might cause early drive failure in TiVo.
    -You can re-run WDidle3 without argument ("wdidle3") and should get message saying something like timer is disabled.
    -Note percent of free space on TiVo under "My Shows"
    -Shutdown and unplug TiVo.
    -Open TiVo using torx wrench with #10 bit to remove four screws from back of TiVo(Found online, home improvement, auto parts and sears stores).
    -Remove Hard Drive from TiVo by unscrewing four Torx screws (the same size) that holds brackets to main board. Also remove SATA power and Data cable from Drive.
    -Install old TiVo drive into PC on SATA port next to your new WD20EARS drive. (Alternatively you could put each drive in a USB drive enclosure to copy via USB)
    -Remove bootdisk from drive and replace with Comers Copy CD burned earlier
    -Re-Boot the PC (or can use Mac or PC if using USB cables/dock to Copy drives). You should see some Tux Penguins in the top left of monitor.
    -You want to select "C" for the copy feature. Follow instructions on screen to select the old 360GB Tivo drive as source and the new 2TB WD drive as destination.
    -Copying should take about 2-4 hours.
    -When finished select "y" (for yes) to expand new 2TB drive (if not the new 2TB drive will think it is only a 360GB drive).
    -Expansion should only take a few seconds.
    -Shut down PC, unplug, and remove both drives from SATA ports.
    -Reverse steps and replace TiVo drive with new 2TB WD20EARS drive.
    -Plug back in SATA Cable/Power to TiVo drive (I forgot this one first time, doh!). Replace Screws in drive mount bracket and TiVo Cover and screws
    -Plug Tivo Cable, internet and power
    -Wait for 10 painful minutes while TiVo boots.
    -Check "My Shows" and you should see used space percent has dropped (mine went from 55% to 9% :) )
    -If all goes well Donate some $$ as thanks to Comer's efforts for a great CD tool without which I would not have been able to upgrade my drive.

    (Thanks to richsadams & tgrim1 for input with above guide and all the help from this forum with upgrade)
    Let me know if I left out any steps.
    Cheers
     
  18. Oct 2, 2010 #858 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Nice follow up and props for the links to the various items. :up:

    There are a couple of confusing lines:

    Laptop? You were using a regular PC correct?

    Not to be too picky but there are only four case screws (two more for the fan, but they don't need to be removed). ;)

    BTW, they are Torx 10 screws on the TiVo case and the hard drive sled. Using a Torx screwdriver is a little easier, particularly for the sled IMHO. A Torx 10 screwdriver can be found at most auto parts stores or Sears.

    FWIW the jfms disk works fine on a Mac (no need to create a USB copy).

    You might want to post a short link to your post here over on Comer's "main" upgrade thread:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=455968

    Enjoy!
     
  19. Oct 2, 2010 #859 of 1486
    kturcotte

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    Will this work with the EVDS drives too? Also, is there a 64 bit version, or does it not matter, just burn what's there? I tried opening it and it said it's the wrong version for my system (Windows 7 64 bit).
     
  20. Oct 2, 2010 #860 of 1486
    comer

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    Nice instructions! :up: Congrats on your upgrade! :)
     

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