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Drive upgrades in a Premiere unit?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jcostom, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Sep 28, 2010 #821 of 1486
    hotoru

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    Ahh, sorry, missed that..... Thanks
     
  2. Sep 28, 2010 #822 of 1486
    hotoru

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    Pulled the trigger and just ordered WD20EARS from Amazon. Should be here tomorrow (Amazon prime :D :up:) hopefully will be able to disable the intellipark using my scrap windows laptop and copy using Comer's voodoo magic CD ;)
     
  3. Sep 28, 2010 #823 of 1486
    Bill McNeal

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    Having some problems connecting the drives using SATA/USB adapter. Do you have to have both drives connected simultaneously for jmfs to see them?

    Tested this out using the WD EARS drive expansion drive only connected via SATA/USB adapter to my laptop, booting to comer's CD. I didn't connect the Tivo drive yet, so it was not detected. However, the fdisk -l command did not show the connected expansion 2 TB disk. (There may not be a point for me to get a second SATA/USB adapter to connect the Tivo drive if my jmfs boot CD doesn't recognize even one of them.)
     
  4. Sep 28, 2010 #824 of 1486
    NYHeel

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    How would you disable intellipark using a laptop? I thought you needed to use an actual sata connector and not a usb/sata connector.
     
  5. Sep 28, 2010 #825 of 1486
    comer

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    Since you need to copy one disk to another - both must be connected simultaneously.
    Did you try a few times to look for 2T drive in a few seconds interval? It takes sometime for system to recognize a new USB connection. Does the native system on that machine see the drive connected? One of reasons could be a bad adapter or connection...
     
  6. Sep 28, 2010 #826 of 1486
    zordude

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    Using wdidle3 1.05 on a WD20EVDS dated August 5 2010:

    wdidle3 /S0 gives me a syntax error (just brings up the sytnax help)

    wdidle3 /D gave a return of "Idle 3 timer is disabled". Confirmed with wdidle3 /r

    Z
     
  7. Sep 28, 2010 #827 of 1486
    hotoru

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    Umm, well now I am not sure. Was hoping I could disable using USB to SATA. I posted question before but no one replied. Any suggestions?
     
  8. Sep 28, 2010 #828 of 1486
    comer

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    I am not sure if you can do it on your laptop, but on mine I simply take out HDD. It's connectors are accessible from outside and they are regular SATA conectors - power and data. To boot from WD tools CD you don't need an internal HDD.

    Oh, and I use extention cable like this
     
  9. Sep 28, 2010 #829 of 1486
    zordude

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    Public Service Announcement:

    If you do your upgrade, and after you plug everything in you get no video and all the lights on the front of the TiVo just flash - take a deep breath, open the case again, and plug the hard drive in and try again.

    Z
     
  10. Sep 29, 2010 #830 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Using wdidle3.exe requires a direct SATA connection, either via the motherboard or some folks have used a PCI/SATA card.

    I never thought about pulling the hard drive on a laptop as comer suggests. It's remotely possible that it could work, but I suspect it won't.

    That said, it's quite possible that if the drive was manufactured recently you may not need to do anything. The only way to find out would be to upgrade and then try a menu restart. If TiVo hangs at the "Welcome! Powering up..." screen you'd need to find someone with a PC that has a SATA port or you could just live with it I suppose (power cycling TiVo after the occasional update).
     
  11. Sep 29, 2010 #831 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Been there...done that. :eek: :)
     
  12. Sep 29, 2010 #832 of 1486
    hotoru

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    ahh, thanks for tip. Just so I am clear, you:
    remove the laptops 2.5 SATA drive then using the extention cable
    connect the new TiVo 3.5 SATA drive to be the laptops new primary.
    Then boot from the WD tools CD in laptop CD Drive.
    Using said tool, disable the intellipark feature.
    Then attach old TiVo drive via USB/SATA. Reboot laptop using your jmfs live CD.
    It should clone old TiVo HD to New Tivo HD over 2-4 hours per your guide. (Does it auto recognize source and destination drives?).
    Then I remove the new (2TB) tivo drive, reinstall in Tivo, reboot, and wait for the magic :) (Hopefully my old laptop is SATA).
    Thanks for your patience.
     
  13. Sep 29, 2010 #833 of 1486
    Bai Shen

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    :D :up::up:
     
  14. Sep 29, 2010 #834 of 1486
    Bai Shen

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    Am I the only one who keeps reading wdidle as wdiddle?
     
  15. Sep 29, 2010 #835 of 1486
    comer

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    I don't read it, I perceive it as an image :D
     
  16. Sep 29, 2010 #836 of 1486
    comer

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    Yep, you got that right :) Good luck! :up:
     
  17. Sep 29, 2010 #837 of 1486
    jbell73

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    Good point. The version was I using "WDIDLE3 Version 1.03" and required "/S 0" to get the function to be completely disabled.

    It's good to have both options ready to try. I got my version from WD's site about 3 weeks back but it's dated 8/28/2009.
     
  18. Sep 30, 2010 #838 of 1486
    richsadams

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    If you can get that to work you'll join the TiVo Pioneer's Club (most recent inductee was Comer ;) ). Best of luck and let us know how it goes!
     
  19. Sep 30, 2010 #839 of 1486
    hotoru

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    Just noting from WD pageWD page for WDidle3 software

    Noticed that WD20EARS is not on the list. Is your WD20EARS working after using the WDidle3?
    Thanks,
     
  20. Sep 30, 2010 #840 of 1486
    hotoru

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    Ok, I have the WDEARS 2TB Drive. I dug up an old case with MOBO and CD drive. I am having trouble booting to a CD to run the WDidle3 program. I think I have a BIOS problem with the old box as I am getting a CMS checksum error and the bios is having trouble recognizing the SATA drive.

    The WDidle3 page indicates you need to boot to a CD or floppy. Does the WD Lifeguard CD allow you to access a command prompt? Or do I need a Win 95/DOS bootable CD? If I can boot to WD CD and get command prompt then I could probably plug in the WD20EARS drive using an external eSATA plug and it should work to flash.... maybe :confused: :)
    Thanks,
     

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