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Drive upgrades in a Premiere unit?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jcostom, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Sep 19, 2010 #661 of 1486
    comer

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    If the bad sector was in unused space then the new disk should be just fine. Which is likely, considering that only 1% of the virgin drive is used.
    However, if the new drive has a hole in it, not the old one, then when Tivo gets to it eventually - it will result in error or lost data.
    So checking the drive with WD tool seems like a very good idea. Another, albeit crude, way to check if the source drive is bad is to do "dd" copy to "/dev/null". If there is a an error it could only come from the source drive.
     
  2. Sep 19, 2010 #662 of 1486
    wluk

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    I do hope the bad sector is in unused on the source. The new drive was scanned and there was no bad sector.

    I couldn't get the WD tool to work because it kept saying the license file not found. Then I got the UBCD image which has the same WD tool in there. However when I ran it, the WD had a 132 code so I gave up.

    132 Command Error Command Aborted. Please ensure that you are using the version of diagnostic utility corresponding to either newer or older Western Digital drives.

    Now that my new drive is working and all I want to do is to create a backup image of the old drive. I am been searching for tools to do it in Windows as I am not very good with Linux without someone spoon feed me the commands.

    I really want to thank comer for his great work.
     
  3. Sep 19, 2010 #663 of 1486
    comer

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    If you know what "mount" is, then it's anly a matter of running the same "ddrescue" or "dd" (possibly with compression), but using a path to a file where your backup image will be stored. See here
    If you don't - I think Paragon Disk Manager should be able to backup the drive with "raw" access turned on.

    No problem - buy me a beer :up::D:D
     
  4. Sep 19, 2010 #664 of 1486
    wluk

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    I followed this link to mount my Windows drive to Ubuntu

    http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/

    Then change directory to the folder with the mounted drive and run this command

    dd if=/dev/sdb | bzip2 -c9 >tivo.img.bz2

    "/dev/sdb" would the source drive. "tivo.img.bz2" would be the output file name.

    however the output file size with the compressed option is still 300gb as opposes to 3gb?
     
  5. Sep 19, 2010 #665 of 1486
    donnoh

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    I love this thread. There is nothing better than people hacking a Tivo and making it better!
     
  6. Sep 19, 2010 #666 of 1486
    comer

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    Just make sure the "tivo.img.bz2" is created on Windows drive, i.e. I would make it explicit "<mounted drive>/tivo.img.bz2".

    Yes, it was discussed, sometimes it's hard to compress Tivo drive. Oh well, until someone (me?) comes out with partial backup we have to live with huge files.
     
  7. Sep 20, 2010 #667 of 1486
    comer

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    The jmfs Live CD has arrived here. :up:
     
  8. Sep 20, 2010 #668 of 1486
    comer

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    It is awfully quiet today. What's going on? :eek:
     
  9. Sep 20, 2010 #669 of 1486
    RichB

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    Thanks for the new disk.
    My Friend orders a Premiere on Sunday and a new drive. I will give it a spin next week.

    I think people are waiting for the Premiere stock to come back up.

    - Rich
     
  10. Sep 20, 2010 #670 of 1486
    cr33p

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    I wonder if all the true "Hackers" have all upgraded thus far ? With the introduction of this new Live CD I'm sure we will see many more folks here chiming in.

    Comer, what does it take to clean up a "virgin" image to make it bootable to any Tivo without a C&D everything? I know the hybrid image Mr Brolovski had was set like that and Dvr Dude's is like that yeah? What are these guys doing to the image?
     
  11. Sep 20, 2010 #671 of 1486
    comer

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    I don't know, honestly :) If I had to guess, I'd say that there's a database of settings on the drive, where the information of a married hardware is stored. Tivo decided not to be too hard if that information is missing - just restore it to where it is supposed to be.
    It's should not be too hard to investigate what exactly is changing with C&DE. First, C&DE (to minimize area changes - movies will be all gone), then marry the drive again, take an image, then C&DE and compare :)

    I think this feature is useless for an average user. For commercial cloning on the other hand... ;)
     
  12. Sep 21, 2010 #672 of 1486
    gespears

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    Thanks again Comer for all your hard work. You ARE the man!

    Does this new disk have instructions for just making a copy of the disk? I have a 2tb I want to make a backup of. It has several recordings on it I don't want to loose if it craps out. Of course they have that stupid copy protection so I can't transfer them off to anything else.

    Thanks!
     
  13. Sep 21, 2010 #673 of 1486
    aaronwt

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    will the new 3TB drives work in the Premiere?
     
  14. Sep 21, 2010 #674 of 1486
    kturcotte

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    Don't think so, but I hope so. Ever larger would be nice. LOVE to have an even 1000 HD hours of space. Course, just imagine how much space we'll need when we hit UHD (Ultra High Definition) lol
     
  15. Sep 21, 2010 #675 of 1486
    comer

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    Not to the full capacity yet.
     
  16. Sep 21, 2010 #676 of 1486
    wp746911

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    mmm 3Tb- makes 2 tb seem so last week
     
  17. Sep 21, 2010 #677 of 1486
    comer

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    Are they out yet? Where, how much? :)
     
  18. Sep 21, 2010 #678 of 1486
    orangeboy

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    Me thinks someone wants to experiment... :D
     
  19. Sep 21, 2010 #679 of 1486
    kturcotte

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    Hoping they come out soon. Should drive the price of the 2 TB drives down. Wait-I already know when they'll ship-the day AFTER I buy a 2 TB and the prices drop to $75 lol
     
  20. Sep 21, 2010 #680 of 1486
    comer

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    You got that right :D Just today I though of creating an LVM volume of 3T to experiment. I wouldn't be able to test it in Tivo, of course, but at least I would test the tool ;)
     

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