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Drive upgrades in a Premiere unit?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jcostom, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Sep 13, 2010 #601 of 1486
    krisca

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    Weaknees is a rip off. I had to mail my unit to them three times and they still did not did not fix the problem.The guys there are really rude. They would not give me my money back. I would not recommend them.
     
  2. Sep 13, 2010 #602 of 1486
    midlomuncher

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    Hey folks, another success story. 290 HD hours in my TP as of this morning. Loading it up now by transfering content from my 2TB Tivo S3 rig. I wanted to get away from having an external HD because my kids are a little rowdy and I worry about the extra target during the nerf wars.

    Anyhow, as a linux newbie I followed comer's directions. The first time, I ran into an insurmountable error trying to run the tool. So, I decided to start over, do everything right and document my procedure. Hopefully, my procedure can help supplement comer’s instructions and get some of you off the fence!

    Standard warnings apply: Proceed at your own risk.

    1) I went here and and downloaded the 32-bit desktop edition .iso and then burned a boot DVD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download

    2) I disconnected all SATA disks in my Hackintosh and connected the original Tivo drive and the new 2TB WD20EARS drive (powered off & disconnected for this of course!)

    3) After connecting both disks, I booted from the Ubuntu 10.04 Boot DVD. I found the easiest way to get a Java Runtime Edition (JRE) and ddrescue installed was to use the Synaptic Package Manager.

    In the MENU BAR select:
    SYSTEM > ADMINISTRATION > SYNAPTIC PACKAGE MANAGER, then in the left pane select ALL and then in the right pane check ddrescue and default-jre. The other required package element check boxes will self-populate as needed. Then don’t forget to click APPLY.

    I performed one other action in the SPM:
    SYSTEM > ADMINISTRATION > SYNAPTIC PACKAGE MANAGER > SETTINGS > REPOSITORIES > UBUNTU SOFTWARE, I checked all the boxes except source code and then don’t forget to click RELOAD.

    You are done and can close the SPM.

    4) Then in my Dowloads folder I created 2 folders for comer’s tool. I named the first javabin and the second javasrc. I downloaded and extracted the binaries (jar and scripts) to the javabin folder and the Sources to the javasrc folder.

    5) Finally, I made my way into the Terminal and got to work! I tried all of the commands as written by comer with the appropriate drive names. Some commands worked the first time and some commands gave an error, so I re-entered the command with “sudo” in front and all the commands that didn’t execute then executed properly.

    In Terminal:

    fdisk –l (my disks listed: /dev/sda is the original, /dev/sdb is the 2TB)

    WARNING: These drive names will be dependent on your system. Make sure you verify your drive names and use them correctly!!!*****

    sudo hdparm –i <old drive> (info on original Tivo disk)

    sudo hdparm –i <new drive> (info on new TB disk)

    WARNING x2: These drive names will be dependent on your system. Make sure you verify your drive names and use them correctly!!!

    sudo chmod o+r <old drive>

    sudo chmod o+rw <new drive>

    navigate to directory where you extracted the binaries (jar and scripts)

    ./testLayout.sh <old drive> (note used free & total numbers for comparison)

    I then navigated back to the top directory (noted but not sure if this mattered)

    ddrescue –r 3 <old drive> <new drive> (it did run about 3 hours)

    when done, I navigated back to directory where I extracted the binaries (jar and scripts)

    sudo ./mfsadd.sh <new drive>

    ./testLayout.sh <new drive> (check numbers to see if they size increased)

    The size increased, so I shut down the computer disconnected the new drive and put it back in the Tivo. I fired up the Tivo and ran the clear and delete. Success!
     
  3. Sep 14, 2010 #603 of 1486
    Phantom Gremlin

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    Sort of OT, but this thread is all about hard drives, so I'll take a guess at this. I haven't kept up with drive advances since the '90s, so my information may be way out of date.

    Yes it's true that, ideally, the drive heads don't touch the surface. But, in the old days, that wasn't the case. Which lead to a big problem of stiction in hard disk drives.

    I expect that, for whatever reason, there is still some amount of lubricant being used. And having the drive arm periodically "sweep" across the platters would keep the lubricant evenly distributed. In the dark ages there were software programs that did exactly this. I think WD is saying they have moved this function into drive firmware.
     
  4. Sep 14, 2010 #604 of 1486
    gespears

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  5. Sep 14, 2010 #605 of 1486
    orangeboy

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    Such as: "Condition: New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging..."?

    Somehow the TiVo software made it onto the drive in an unopened box? I would think the box would have to be opened and the drive used at least once to put the TiVo image on, and used one more time in an actual TiVo to test that it works...
     
  6. Sep 14, 2010 #606 of 1486
    aaronwt

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    That person has been selling the drives for a while also. I chose DVR Dude because they warrantied their labor for 1 year plus it seemed like DVR daddy was copying DVR DUDE anyway. I have been very pleased with my two DVR DUDE drives.
     
  7. Sep 14, 2010 #607 of 1486
    richsadams

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    The old Vulcan/TiVo mind meld. ;)
     
  8. Sep 14, 2010 #608 of 1486
    RichB

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    I am getting nowhere.

    I first tried Ubunto and got the JRE and packages installed.
    Then I tried "fdisk -l" and nothing is displayed.
    So I gave up.

    Then I decided to try windows:

    1.Get Windows version of "dd" or "ddrescue"

    Done.

    2.Create an image of your old Tivo drive: copy disk using the tools above into a file <new image>

    I do not believe I want windows to much with the TiVo drives.
    How do I copy the file with DD from windows devices that are only known as Disk 1 and Disk 2?

    - Rich
     
  9. Sep 14, 2010 #609 of 1486
    comer

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    Windows: "dd --list" and choose from the list the devices you would use.
    Ubuntu: "sudo fdisk -l".
     
  10. Sep 14, 2010 #610 of 1486
    RichB

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    OK Thanks.

    I went back to ubuntu and found that the drives were not found by fdisk in IDE mode. Once I changed to AHCI, fdisk found them.

    After installing the ddrescue, I had to type the command to install it and then that worked. I am about 1/3 of the way through now.

    - Rich
     
  11. Sep 14, 2010 #611 of 1486
    rsaly77

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    I thought I would help those having trouble installing JAVA in Ubuntu.
    The system will do most of the work...

    Start by going to System-Administration-Software Sources.
    Click on the other software tab.
    Click add and enter the following address without the quotes 'deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner'
    Click on the Ubuntu Software tab and then check Community-maintained Open Source Software.
    Now click on close and the system will reload software sources.

    For some reason on my PC I have to reload the Software Sources twice, I do this by opening Software Sources and click on community-maintained software to remove check mark and then click on community-maintained software again to select. Now close software sources and the system will reload sources again.

    Go to System-Administration-Synaptic Package Manager.
    Search for sun java.
    Right click on sun-java6-bin and mark for installation.
    Now click on apply and agree to install all needed files.
    The system will now install Sun Java....
     
  12. Sep 14, 2010 #612 of 1486
    cr33p

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    Do we have to run a C&D Everything? I was under the assumption that we where copying the existing drive and expanding it to a new drive? Wont that cause everyone to lose their Cable Card info? If this is the case wouldnt it make more sense to C&D before copying? It would make the image smaller?
     
  13. Sep 15, 2010 #613 of 1486
    midlomuncher

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    My TP is new so I decided to run C&D Everything just for fun and to see if there were any problems doing so. I have FIOS , so no CableCard issues. My image was small to begin with.
     
  14. Sep 15, 2010 #614 of 1486
    comer

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    No, you don't have to C&D :)
    Unless you clone someoneelse's drive that does not match your Tivo. In this case, expand or not, you will get Error 51, which is cured by C&DE.
     
  15. Sep 15, 2010 #615 of 1486
    cr33p

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    Roger that, I typically save images for troubleshooting, upgrades, and tivo sales, so It will be nice to have a saved back up. Does anyone out there have a "virgin" image sitting on FTP for a Premiere? Would be very helpful to have in the TiVo aresenal
     
  16. Sep 15, 2010 #616 of 1486
    gamo62

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    I too would love to have a virgin image of a Premiere.
     
  17. Sep 15, 2010 #617 of 1486
    cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    I just picked up two units this week that are "open box" not sure if they have been booted or not, I will try imaging them this week and see what I come up with.
     
  18. Sep 15, 2010 #618 of 1486
    rdangel

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    If someone wants to give me instructions on building a virgin image within ubuntu, I can do this.
    I have a premier I am about to open the box to that I am going to clone before I boot it. I reckon making a backup image is a good thing.
     
  19. Sep 15, 2010 #619 of 1486
    comer

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    Step #6 of Linux instructions of the post in my signature. Intead of "<new drive>" use file name (e.g. "/mnt/sdd1/my_virgin_tivo.img").
     
  20. Sep 15, 2010 #620 of 1486
    rdangel

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    DOH! Thanks Comer.
    I will work on this image on Friday let everyone know when it is ready.
     

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