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Drive upgrades in a Premiere unit?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jcostom, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Sep 9, 2010 #541 of 1486
    RichB

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    What a great question!

    I doubt it but it would be nifty.

    - Rich
     
  2. Sep 9, 2010 #542 of 1486
    comer

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    I don't see why it wouldn't. You would need to add disk resources to your VM of course.
    Easy - try it :D You can start with layout display - see if it works.
     
  3. Sep 9, 2010 #543 of 1486
    RichB

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    OK. I am willing to give it a go.

    - Rich
     
  4. Sep 9, 2010 #544 of 1486
    ckazacos

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    Yes! I have Unix/Linux experience so it wasn't difficult. The most difficult part was trying to get an older computer to boot Live CD from USB. I resorted to using my newer computer and things went smoothly.
     
  5. Sep 9, 2010 #545 of 1486
    orangeboy

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    Wasn't there some issues with Windows mucking around with the boot sector of the original TiVo drive when you connect and power up the Windows OS? Well, I guess since there's a Windows version, that must/may not be the case!
     
  6. Sep 10, 2010 #546 of 1486
    jmiller50

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    Another 2T upgrade success story here. I just upgraded last night. I use Linux 99% of the time, so for me, the hardest part was finding someone I could borrow 2 SATA cables from. For those trying to gauge how long it will take, the actually disk copy took about 3.5 hrs on my computer.

    Kudos to corner for putting in the work to get this resolved.
     
  7. Sep 10, 2010 #547 of 1486
    elite-fusion

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    Hey again guys...sorry to bug you but not able to do this for some reason

    This is what i have:

    . Laptop with Win XP SP3
    . I can get a bootable CD version of linux
    . 3 TiVo's (S3 HD, Premiere, and Premiere XL)
    . a ton of Sata cables (if needed)
    . an eSata cable (if needed)

    I took out the hard drive from my S3 for example (its currently 1TB and want to upgrade to 2TB)
    So I now have a bare 1TB and a bare 2TB (what I would want to do I'm assuming is Copy and Expand)

    I DO NOT HAVE ANY RECORDINGS ON THE 1TB DRIVE, SO I DO NOT CARE ABOUT LOOSING ANYTHING (THS SHOULD MAKE IT MUCH FASTER)

    So instead of having 1TB in my S3, I want to have a 2TB.

    How would i go about doing this in linux???? I HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO USE LINUX :(

    I know this is PREMIERE forum, but same case goes for my Premiere and Premiere XL. I figured I'd try on the S3 first...or if you guys suggest I can pull the Premiere hard drive out and work with that.

    Sorry for so many questions, i just like to include as much info as i can so someone can help me.

    PS. LOVING THE TIVO's....THEY ARE AMAZING!
     
  8. Sep 10, 2010 #548 of 1486
    b13

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    I am confused, do I run &#9702;"ddrescue -r 3 <old tivo drive or image file name> <new drive>" or do I run &#9702;"dd if=<old tivo drive or image file name> of=<new drive>"

    I ran the 1st command and it finised in 2-3 hours like you said. However then I ran second command and 6hours later the HDD's are still doing something.




    **************************************
    This is your current disk capacity.

    6.Copy old tivo disk or image file onto new one using either:
    &#9702;"ddrescue -r 3 <old tivo drive or image file name> <new drive>"
    I recommend this tool if available in your system, because it gives nice progress output, so you can be sure it didn't hang and how long to wait.

    &#9702;"dd if=<old tivo drive or image file name> of=<new drive>"
    It is possible to see progress of this tool as well, but not interactively. For more info see "man dd" or look it up on internet.
    Wait for 2-3 hours until complete. Make sure it completes without errors.
    7.Execute "./mfsadd.sh <new drive>"

    8.[optional, but very advisable] run "./testLayout.sh <new drive>".
    Make note of the last few lines and verify that capacity increased.
     
  9. Sep 10, 2010 #549 of 1486
    wp746911

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    oopsie- gotta read the instructions very carefully when using command prompt:

    Copy old tivo disk or image file onto new one using either:
    "ddrescue -r 3 <old tivo drive or image file name> <new drive>"
    I recommend this tool if available in your system, because it gives nice progress output, so you can be sure it didn't hang and how long to wait.

    "dd if=<old tivo drive or image file name> of=<new drive>"
    It is possible to see progress of this tool as well, but not interactively. For more info see "man dd" or look it up on internet.
    Wait for 2-3 hours until complete. Make sure it completes without errors.

    It says to either- you were done after the first ddrescue (took about 3 hours on my computer too)- dd if does the same thing but doesn't look as nice-and you should only run one or the other.
     
  10. Sep 10, 2010 #550 of 1486
    Jonathan_S

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    IIRC it was basically an older version(s?) of windows that did it. (I want to say Windows 2000, but that might be wrong).

    Newer versions of windows play nice and don't automatically touch all drives. You'd have to go into the drive manager and specifically ask it to initialize the drive to break it like the old version of windows did automatically.


    I know WinXP SP2 is safe (I've used WinMFS in XP to copy / expand TiVo drives without an problems) and Vista or Win7 should be good as well.
     
  11. Sep 10, 2010 #551 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Exactly. Win XP (original release), NT 4, Windows 2000 sp4 or earlier, ME or earlier were the culprits. Windows ME? :eek: ((shudder)). ;)
     
  12. Sep 10, 2010 #552 of 1486
    orangeboy

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    Great! That does ease my mind when the time comes to upgrade the Premiere. :up:
     
  13. Sep 10, 2010 #553 of 1486
    b13

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    Status update:Ran 1st Command then ran Second Command. I thought I would break it<---

    Well....It didn't! Tivo booted everything seems ok (except) when I change to menus like from Video to Network etc. When it switches I see a gray sceeen then it takes me to menu.

    I went from 320gig to 1-terabyte. Does it support 2 terabyte? I used Ubuntu x64-bit and booted off of live CD. I am in I.t. and I haven't used linux for a while (started to recently) so it wasn't that hard. The only thing was instructions at the end confused me.
     
  14. Sep 10, 2010 #554 of 1486
    johnfarmer55

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    I like seeing the list of upgraded Premieres grow!

    --j55
     
  15. Sep 10, 2010 #555 of 1486
    comer

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    Congrats! :up:


    Yes.


    For the benefit of future users, could you be more specific, please? :)
     
  16. Sep 10, 2010 #556 of 1486
    steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Why do I have this feeling that Weaknees, DVRUpgrade, and DVRDude sales for the Premiere upgrade drives are about to plummet?
     
  17. Sep 10, 2010 #557 of 1486
    comer

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    Should I be worried? :eek:

    :D:D
     
  18. Sep 11, 2010 #558 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Newegg.com has the 2TB Western Digital GP WD20EARS for $119.99. Coupon code "HARDOCP98B" takes it down to $99.99 w/free shipping.

    http://bit.ly/cbDU6G
     
  19. Sep 11, 2010 #559 of 1486
    wp746911

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    hmm i wondered if I spent too much- I got a WD AV-GP 2tb- i cost me mabye $30 more but I felt good that it was designated for pvr use- was that a good move or are these other drives just as good?
     
  20. Sep 11, 2010 #560 of 1486
    RichB

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    I have a Premiere XL in my Living room.
    Can you move disks from one TiVo to the other. The case is a little ill-fitting on the new Premiere. So I was wondering if I can:

    Upgrade the new TiVo XL to a 2TB drive and then move the 1TB drive to my other Premiere.

    Are drives locked to the units?

    - Rich
     

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