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Drive upgrades in a Premiere unit?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jcostom, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Aug 24, 2010 #361 of 1486
    Gregor

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    Do the Tivo drives have a jumper setting that would make them read-only?
     
  2. Aug 24, 2010 #362 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Not AFAIK.
     
  3. Aug 25, 2010 #363 of 1486
    gespears

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    Hey guys. Just wanted to add data. I've had a WD black 750GB internal with a 1TB WD black expansion in my THD for over three years without a failure. As a mater of fact, the only WD drive I've had to send into repair was one I dropped. I've used north of 50 units for various projects with no issues.

    And speaking of WD drives, I just received my 2TB WD drive from dvr-dude and installed it in my TP that I had not even powered up yet. Yanked the old drive and stored it away.

    Anyway, it powered up, went through setup, it noticed it was only 14.4 so it updated itself to 14.5 and all's well. The Cox cable guy is due tomorrow so cross your fingers!

    Good luck with the testing.
     
  4. Aug 25, 2010 #364 of 1486
    richsadams

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    Thanks for the info. :up: Enjoy your "new" TiVo!
     
  5. Aug 25, 2010 #365 of 1486
    turbobozz

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    (Not disagreeing that they've had serious problems, just reveling in my luck of the draw...)

    I have 4 of the Seagate .11 1.5TB drives, but I haven't had any of them die or cause problems.
    1 is from the first week or so they became available (requiring firmware update), 1 is from a few months later, and the other two are later than that.

    I feel like I'm playing russian roulette. :)
     
  6. Aug 25, 2010 #366 of 1486
    donnoh

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    A good indicator that your drive will fail is to buy it from Newegg. Every drive I've bought from them has been a piece of crap.
     
  7. Aug 25, 2010 #367 of 1486
    chewy2314

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    Any success stories using Comer's util?
     
  8. Aug 25, 2010 #368 of 1486
    turbobozz

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    Some of mine are from Newegg, some from Amazon.
    Both of them have had issues packing 'OEM' computer parts properly at times.
    And, iirc, customers from both were positing that as one reason for some of the .11 drive problems.

    I've only ever had one hard drive fail... an IBM... I think in the year or two before they sold the business off to Hitachi.
    I've been lucky with drives... other stuff, not so much.
     
  9. Aug 25, 2010 #369 of 1486
    donnoh

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    It's been about a year since I bought a drive from newegg. All of them I've purchased came shipped in a box full of Styrofoam peanuts. Unless they've changed their shipping practices since, all you're buying is a soon to fail drive.
    As far as Amazon goes, the ones I've bought from them are shipped in an individual box sandwiched between plastic isolators that prevent them from bouncing around like ping pong balls.

    Take your choice but it's commonly known that neweggs drives are packed like dung and have the reliability of a 74 Vega.
     
  10. Aug 25, 2010 #370 of 1486
    Gregor

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    YMMV. I've bought several drives from them, mostly Hitachi or Seagate, without issues.
     
  11. Aug 25, 2010 #371 of 1486
    aaronwt

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    +1 although I've bought many dozens from Newegg with no issues. But usually when I'm buying them from Newegg I'm getting at least 4 or more at a time. So they are always packed in a styrofoam container that is designed to hold multiple hard drives.
     
  12. Aug 26, 2010 #372 of 1486
    gamo62

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    I wished Western Digital made a 2tb SATA 6 Caviar Black hard drive. The largest they have is a 1tb. I had to buy a Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB drive. (For the desktop, not the Tivo)
     
  13. Aug 26, 2010 #373 of 1486
    aaronwt

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    Just throw several in a RAID 0. For my main desktop I did not want to spend the money on a solid state drive, so I just got several of the cheap WD Caviar Blue drives and put three 250GB drives in a RAID 0 setup for my C drive and put two 500GB ones in a RAID 0 for a data drive.
    And since the RAIDs are so small, I use one 2TB WD green drive with my ReBit software for backup of the two RAIDs.

    From a speed perspective, the WD Blue drives are as fast as the Black drives. There is just a shorter warranty with the Blue drives and less cache memory.
     
  14. Aug 26, 2010 #374 of 1486
    jterwelp

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    Is this modified version of mfs_tools publicly available? I am under the impression that the only way to create a working backup of a Premiere drive is a 1:1 copy which requires tying up another same-sized hard drive.

    If it is possible back up a Premiere drive to a CD (sans recordings, obviously), I think that's something that would garner quite a bit of interest.
     
  15. Aug 26, 2010 #375 of 1486
    MikeAndrews

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    NewEgg is now wrapping the OEM drives in bubble wrap and putting that in a tight-fitting cardboard inner box, then they pack that box in a larger box in foam peanuts.

    I still had one of my two just purchased WD 2TB Green drives be DOA. I also had a 1TB Hitachi drive destined to the external for my S3 be DOA before they changed the packing.

    Then I bought a 2TB 5400RPM Seagate drive (for $89, shipped!). It works fine.

    I'd still buy elsewhere if the price is close. Returning the drives cost me $10-$15, an hour or two of aggravation and 10 days of time to get the replacement. NewEgg not only doesn't apologize, every step is as if you the customer screwed up, "Your return has been authorized.... Your return has been accepted." I'm sooooo happy that my broken and paid for new purchase has been "accepted" after it cost me money and time. :mad:
     
  16. Aug 26, 2010 #376 of 1486
    Bai Shen

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    Smeeking here.

    So are we able to upgrade Premiere's to 2TB drives?
     
  17. Aug 26, 2010 #377 of 1486
    richsadams

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    If you're comfortable with command line/coding, etc. A brave TCF Member (comer) has devised a way to upgrade a Premiere to 2TB's. More here:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8095021#post8095021

    If you're looking for something a little more simple like winMFS or even MFStools, nothing is available just yet.
     
  18. Aug 26, 2010 #378 of 1486
    eaayoung

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    I'm starting to regret the purchase of the extending warranty that I purchased with the Premiere.
     
  19. Aug 26, 2010 #379 of 1486
    richsadams

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    How so? If you're regretting it because you feel you can't upgrade until it expires there are only a couple of posted cases where TiVo refused an exchange when the original drive was reinstalled and the box was returned intact otherwise.

    It's true TiVo "knows" when a box has been upgraded if they take the time to look at their logs...or if one feels the need to confess everything to a TiVo CSR. However as long as nothing has been damaged during the upgrade, and again, the original hard drive is in place upon return the odds of being denied warranty services are very slim.

    FWIW hard drives are the number one TiVo failure point by an overwhelming margin. If you upgrade and put the original drive on the shelf and your new drive fails at some point, you can always slip the original back in and not only be back up and running in minutes, but still have a "fresh" image for a replacement drive. If it's something else that fails (power supply, etc.), you can slip the original drive back inside and send it in for an exchange.

    BTW, I'm not advocating breaking any warranties, actual, implied or expressed. :)
     
  20. Aug 26, 2010 #380 of 1486
    lessd

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    You must be doing something incorrect as NewEgg would E-Mail me a UPS return label (at no cost) for any DOA drive I purchased from them.
     

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