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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Aug 6, 2008 #1641 of 10334

    MichaelTV New Member

    Jun 12, 2008
    I used the DVD SATA cable, but plugged it into a different port on the board.

    If I reboot...enter the BIOS...'enable' the two unused ports, is Windows going to try to mount the drive and assign letters, or just make the ports 'active'? If I enable the ports/drives, is there any concern on Windows messing up my existing TiVo drive?
  2. Aug 6, 2008 #1642 of 10334

    greg_burns Now in HD

    May 21, 2004

    No, windows will not mount the drives itself. You'd have to go into Disk Management and tell it to do that. I think booting into Windows and having it overwrite the boot record was a Windows 2000 problem. Not XP or Vista. (I've personally tested that on XP just to see for myself.)

    In fact, WinMFS depends on it not mounting the drives. You should be ok. Hopefully enabling in the BIOS is all that's wrong.
  3. Aug 6, 2008 #1643 of 10334

    MichaelTV New Member

    Jun 12, 2008
    Hopefully, I'll have time to try this out tonight. The Olympics are coming fast! Thanks for your help. I'll let you know how it goes.
  4. Aug 6, 2008 #1644 of 10334

    jbrennan New Member

    Jan 20, 2005

    Naclone, are you now running 9.4 on the Tivo with the FAP? Did 9.4 install through the regular nightly connect, did you install 9.4 yourself from another Tivo, or did you sign a non disclosure agreement with Tivo regarding anything to do with testing 9.4?

  5. Aug 6, 2008 #1645 of 10334

    naclone New Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    nope. i'm still on 9.3.

    i made that post when the green screen was still doing it's thing so there was no way to check what software i was running so i posited a guess i had gotten upgraded and perhaps that caused the failure.

    the greensceen only ran for a couple minutes then it restarted and everything was normal.
  6. Aug 6, 2008 #1646 of 10334

    MichaelTV New Member

    Jun 12, 2008
    All I had to do was enable the SATA ports in the BIOS. Worked like a champ! I put a WD10000CSRTL in my TiVO HD...144 hours of HD!

    Thanks for your help.
  7. Aug 7, 2008 #1647 of 10334

    DHR New Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    Hi all, this is just to add more data to the FAP 750 discussion. My Series3 started acting strange a couple months ago (I've had it for over a year)- it started with garbled sound, then pixelation in images and now I'm getting some reboots. I was on software release 9.3 until today and 9.4 installed successfully. I've been deleting old material from the TIVO but it's too early to say if that has helped the situation.

    I'm in the process of downloading the SD programing to my PC for future upload and it looks like I'll have to visit Best Buy and invest in a WD DVD Expander to ensure a good Olympic experience.

    Thanks everyone for your comments. Too bad TIVO's official site doesn't have any mention of Seagate FAP drives even after the broadcast warning.:mad:
  8. Aug 7, 2008 #1648 of 10334
    M Tyson

    M Tyson New Member

    Aug 7, 2008
    Did this configuration work? I'm thinking of trying the same config.
  9. Aug 7, 2008 #1649 of 10334

    alyssa Active Member

    Dec 7, 2003
  10. Aug 7, 2008 #1650 of 10334

    sbessel Reformed Geek

    Dec 10, 2001
  11. Aug 7, 2008 #1651 of 10334

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

    Apr 6, 2000
    SF Bay Area

    Do you have a Costco membership ($50, if not)? I saw the Costco Expander $139.99 (ship/handling included), same price at the stores.
  12. Aug 8, 2008 #1652 of 10334

    richsadams Active Member

    Jan 4, 2003
    You should be able to use dd to make an exact copy and IIRC a couple of folks have done that successfully. But AFAIK that would only work on a like-for-like situation. I don't recall anyone trying to use it to switch/upgrade their eSATA drive to another model/size, etc. Once the eSATA drive is married to the internal drive it would be looking for the same drive as TiVo recognizes drives by the model number. It's worth a try, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Let us know how it goes if you give it a shot. :up:
  13. Aug 8, 2008 #1653 of 10334

    toddc New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Near Boston
    I got 9.4 last night and my 750 MB FAP is working just fine.
    Nice new additions to the software.
    Interesting that I have 5 TiVos and the one with the 750 MB FAP is the only one with 9.4 so far.

    So much for all the worrying.
  14. Aug 8, 2008 #1654 of 10334

    donaudio Member

    Apr 1, 2002
    Boy, did I have a scare today. Last night Tivo downloaded 9.4 to my Series 3 with a FAP 750. This has been working perfectly for over one year. The screen said Tivo did not recognize my external drive so I did a hard start twice and got the same message. I was about to ditch the FAP but then I thought I would unplug both the Tivo and FAP. The FAP was plugged in first and then the Tivo. Voila, it booted up correctly. Hope this helps anyone who is having this kind of trouble. Don
  15. Aug 9, 2008 #1655 of 10334

    SeattleFred New Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Yup, my S3 got 9.4 sometime in the last 24 hours, too. My FAP 750 continues to work like a champ. Keeping my fingers crossedÂ…
  16. Aug 9, 2008 #1656 of 10334

    SeattleFred New Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Hmm…perhaps I spoke too soon. Tonight, I had the S3 recording the Olympics Opening Ceremony. We started watching it, from the beginning, about an hour or so after the program began, zipping thru the ads as usual. After an hour or so, we moved on to other activities, but let the recording continue. Shortly after the recording finished, I selected the recorded program from the Now Playing List so that we could resume watching where we had left off.

    To my surprise, clicking the Play button resulted in :

    Error playing a recording
    The Tivo Digital Media Recorder was not able to record this program because there was no video signal on the channel. You may have been trying to record on a channel that you don't receive.​

    I had never seen this message before and the channel in question (105 on Seattle Comcast) has always been reliable—not to mention that we had been watching the dang show without any problem.

    I don't see any connection, other than the timeline, between the FAP warning and the contents of this error message. Could it be the 9.4 update?
  17. Aug 9, 2008 #1657 of 10334

    naclone New Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    i got this too last night on a recording of a baseball game. first time i'd ever seen it.

    getting some "external drive not recognized" errors this morning as well.

    i don't want to get all tinfoil hat, but i just can't imagine it's a total coincidence that so many people who have run their FAP 750 for over a year without incident are now experiencing these problems within hours of getting an ominous warning from TiVo.

    As I type, i've just gotten the "Serious Problem" green screen for the second time in a week.

    something very very curious about the timing of all this if you ask me.
  18. Aug 9, 2008 #1658 of 10334

    husky55 Member

    Feb 2, 2008
    Madison, CT
    9.4 seems to be a solid upgrade so far. But I read with complete bafflement about the FAP problem some seem to be having. Particularly when the FAP worked OK for over a year and then boom not working anymore with error message not seen before.

    My Hitachi 750 with the Antec MX1 seem OK but other have spoken too soon so I will keep an eye on it and report any problem seen.

    I will test the Olympic Opening Ceremony later on today, having seen it last night.
  19. Aug 12, 2008 #1659 of 10334

    thomaslue New Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    I am still shopping for a 1TB drive to go into my Antec MX-1.
    I understand from FAQ #27 that the new version of the WD10EACS is not intended for DVRs:

    But, other than the internal drive upgrade issue on the Tivo Series3, what is there not to like about this drive?
  20. Aug 12, 2008 #1660 of 10334

    c3 TiVoholic

    Sep 8, 2000
    Nothing. WD10EACS is the only 1TB drive I would buy at this time, for both TiVo and PC applications.

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