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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jul 19, 2008 #1561 of 10248
    greg_burns

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    Buy.Com has the WD AV-GP for a little less (it has gone up since I got mine)

    WD10EVCS (internal for S3 or TivoHD)

    But, yeah, if you have a TivoHD you can get the less expensive WD10EACS.

    Buy.com has it as well, but it is cheaper at Fry's I've heard.

    WD10EACS (internal for TivoHD only)
     
  2. Jul 19, 2008 #1562 of 10248
    rjspring

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    I've been reading around the various forums about folks who bought the cheaper WD10EACS for their TivoHD and have had problems - I'm now leaning towards paying the extra $30-$40 for the AV-GP and not having the potential headache...
     
  3. Jul 19, 2008 #1563 of 10248
    greg_burns

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    Really? I've not read that once in this forum that I recall.
     
  4. Jul 20, 2008 #1564 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Hmmm...your link is to a list of drives, so not sure which one you're looking at.

    The link to this WD 1TB GP drive at Fry's will work as an internal upgrade for a TiVo HD. There's no need to spend the extra money for the WD10EACS as TiVo can't take advantage of the extra DVR features.
     
  5. Jul 20, 2008 #1565 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Yes, as Moxie says, if you want to add anything other than the approved WD My DVR Expander via plug and play you'll have to follow the FAQ instructions for either upgrading your internal hard drive (recommended) or adding an eSATA drive (or both).
     
  6. Jul 20, 2008 #1566 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Agree with Greg, AFAIK no one has had any issues using the WD10EACS either as an internal upgrade in the TiVo HD or using it as an expansion drive with the TiVo HD or Series3. Ours has performed flawlessly for about 10 months now.

    With regard to TiVo, the only difference between the WD10EACS and the WD10EVCS/AV GP drive is the AAM setting of 128. You can easily use the Hitachi Feature Tool to set the AAM on WD10EACS to 128. TiVo isn't able to take advantage of the rest of the features of the AV GP drive.
     
  7. Jul 20, 2008 #1567 of 10248
    RS4

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    Thanks for your help. It's a bit scary. The Tivo HD has been out for a year now, and Tivo is still only selling the 500GB drive, yet the 750 and 1TB drives have been available for quite some time. I would have thought that Tivo would have offered more options on their site by now. So, the scary part for me is that this must be more complicated then what I'm thinking. I think I'll probably wait a while longer to see if Tivo offers anything more.
     
  8. Jul 20, 2008 #1568 of 10248
    rjspring

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    Thanks a ton for your help, I'll keep you posted as I make the purchase of the Tivo HD (I have a Series2DT right now - needing to make the digital/HDTV jump).
     
  9. Jul 20, 2008 #1569 of 10248
    rjspring

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    Looking through the Hitachi Feature tool, a question came to mind. Will this utility support and or detect drives connected via a SATA to USB connection? I plan on cloning the Tivo drive to the 1TB WD drive via a SATA to USB connection...
     
  10. Jul 20, 2008 #1570 of 10248
    husky55

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    As I recall, the Hitachi Feature Tool, version 10 (latest) does not detect drive connected to USB and/or Esata port.

    I used this utility on both the WD and Hitachi drives in my signature.
     
  11. Jul 21, 2008 #1571 of 10248
    jojimailbox

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    Hey, looks like Seagate is coming out with external storage product line targeted at DVR expansion. They're taking pre-orders for 500GB and have 1T coming in the future. Will be interesting to see if it works on Tivo. Price-wise, looks like MSRP is higher compared to what you can get on the street for WD My Expander drive.

    http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/showcase/

    Seagate Showcase storage solutions provide up to 1 TB of external storage for DVRs and media centers, enabling a complete library of your favorite high-definition movies. Showcase storage solutions are plug-and-play capable for easy setup, and their stylish design fits seamlessly with existing equipment.

    Key Features and Benefits
    The Seagate Showcase industry leading acoustics provides quiet operation perfect for the bedroom or living room where content is most often enjoyed.
    Capacities up to 1 TB add up to 200 hours of high-definition content or 1000 hours of standard definition television to existing systems.
    Plug-and-play capability makes setup a snap.
    eSATA and USB 2.0 connections packaged in a stylish design provide a seamless fit with other AV equipment in the home.
    1-year limited warranty
    Free tech support even after warranty expires
     
  12. Jul 21, 2008 #1572 of 10248
    jlib

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    There should be no problem recognizing eSATA port or any kind of SATA port (assuming that it has BIOS support on the motherboard or PCI card it is on) but, yeah, the DOS boot disk that the Hitachi Feature Tool is on does not recognise USB.
     
  13. Jul 21, 2008 #1573 of 10248
    shrike4242

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    Sounds like that's a step backwards from all of their other drives being 5-year warrantied, retail or OEM.

    I'd be curious if it had a DS35.3 / DS35.4 drive in it, or some other drive, like a Barracuda 7200.11 .
     
  14. Jul 23, 2008 #1574 of 10248
    ccrider2

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    Hey Rich, I'm confused..... :confused:

    I've read in this and other posts, that the WD10EACS won't work as an INTERNAL drive in an S3, but the only difference between one that will (the WD10EVCS) and the WD10EACS is the AAM. If I set the AAM to 128, using the Hitachi Feature Tool, will the WD10EACS work as an internal drive on the S3?

    I just bought a WD10EACS-00D6B0 at Fry's for $170. Was planning on an external box, but if it will work as an internal.....I'd rather go that way.

    Thanks Much,
    Chris
     
  15. Jul 23, 2008 #1575 of 10248
    greg_burns

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    No, there are probably lots of other differences. Firmware being just one of them. The AAM setting is the only difference your Tivo (and your ears) will appreciate.

    Changing the AAM setting on a WD10EACS does not a WD10EVCS make. :)

    Only will work internally with a TivoHD, not an original S3.
     
  16. Jul 23, 2008 #1576 of 10248
    dwit

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    Actually, that number listed there appears to be different(new version?) than the one that was problematic internally for the S3, which was/is -00ZJB0. Wonder if that will now make a difference?

    Maybe this "new" model number listing will turn out to be a mistake on someone's part.
     
  17. Jul 26, 2008 #1577 of 10248
    c3

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    Just bought a WD10EACS-00D6B0 drive. It has 3 platters instead of the original 4 platters. Don't know if it works as S3 internal or not.
     
  18. Jul 26, 2008 #1578 of 10248
    dwit

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    Where'd you buy it? How much?

    Hope you don't mind my asking. Curious because I've been eyeing the Samsung Eco Green 1TB 3 platter at owc (macsales.com) for about $165 shipped. Wonder how they compare. I imagine quite similar.
     
  19. Jul 26, 2008 #1579 of 10248
    c3

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    $150 shipped from eBay, before PayPal coupon and live.com rebate.

    Before you buy any Samsung drive, make sure you know how the RMA process works in case you do need it.
     
  20. Jul 26, 2008 #1580 of 10248
    dwit

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    No way, read your opinions of the Samsung rma process. It's good wd has com out with their 3 platter.

    I'm going to try to jump on your ebay/livesearch/pp deal if I can figure it out. I signed up for live search a week or so ago after MS took over the jellyfish cash back site. I've been looking around for just that kind of deal on a 1TB drive. Especially a 3 platter one.

    Hope I can figure it out. Thanks for pointing that out.

    edit: Oh well, ebay cash back doesn't seem to be working right now. Maybe layer.
     

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