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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jul 11, 2008 #1521 of 10248
    husky55

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    Just a quick update. The Hitachi Deskstar 7K750 with the Antec MX-1 works well with the WD EACS 1 TB.

    Everything is back to normality.

    Thanks again to RichsAdams and Greg_Burns who have been very helpful. I basically follow rich's guidance to the letter.

    @richsadams, I have travelled long and far, but I have never been to Oregon or Lake Oswego. I don't think I will ever get there. But it must be a wonderful place, if it has people like yourself. Competent, courteous, helpful and generous. Thanks again.

    @greg_burns, I have been to Delaware several times. I love the no sales tax, no income tax state law. But my kids are in CT so I will stay here.

    So all is well which ends well.

    Thanks again guys,

    :)
     
  2. Jul 11, 2008 #1522 of 10248
    husky55

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    jlib

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    Nice! I thought for sure Samsung would win that crown, though.
     
  4. Jul 11, 2008 #1524 of 10248
    richsadams

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    No worries and glad to help...happier still that my advice didn't turn your TiVo into a large paperweight! :D
     
  5. Jul 11, 2008 #1525 of 10248
    richsadams

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    elkcum55

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    If I replace the internal series 3 drive with a 1 TB drive, will it automatically work or will Cox cable have to resend the info to the cards again? It took them MONTHS to finally get the TIVO working properly and I would hate to have them have to start all over again. If I have to have them do the cards from scratch again, I will not replace the drive. I already have a 750gb external. :)

    Thanks for your help
     
  7. Jul 13, 2008 #1527 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Actually everything you need to know is in the first post of this sticky thread. That said, if you follow the appropriate upgrade directions using WinMFS all of your cable card settings, season passes, etc. will remain intact and you won't have to have your cableco pay a visit.

    There are a couple of things to keep in mind though. If you're going to upgrade your internal drive you will no longer be able to connect an external drive via plug and play. When you upgrade this time you will need to "marry" your eSATA drive to your internal drive using WinMFS (the same program you'll use to upgrade the internal drive). You'd have to follow same procedure any succeeding times you want to change your eSATA drive. It's not complicated, just a couple of more steps to follow is all.

    Finally, if you want to keep your existing recordings you'll need to follow some more complicated instructions (specifically Section III, #11 on the first post of this sticky thread). You also have the option of transferring any recordings you want to keep to your PC using TiVo Desktop and then transferring them back after the upgrade which is the best way to go IMHO. If you don't mind losing your recordings you can just follow the basic instructions for upgrading your internal hard drive and marrying your external hard drive. Your cable card and other settings will remain intact.

    Best of luck and let us know how it goes. :up:
     
  8. Jul 14, 2008 #1528 of 10248
    lrhorer

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    Hmm. I might. IF I can afford it, depending on the timing of the release, I rather need to pick up a 1.5TB drive for another purpose. I don't have any problems with pulling the existing drive, copying over to the 1.5T, doing some testing prior to installing the 1.5T drive where it needs to go, and putting the 500G drive back where it belongs. I'll have to see when it comes out and how many pennies I have in my pocket.
     
  9. Jul 14, 2008 #1529 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Cool! :up:
     
  10. Jul 15, 2008 #1530 of 10248
    jlib

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    Carmel...
    It looks like he already has an external drive upgrade and that section assumes a new external drive upgrade. Not a problem other than the loss of existing recordings on the large external drive when he re-adds it to the new internal drive. So, it looks like the TiVo Desktop method is his only option for preserving them.
     
  11. Jul 15, 2008 #1531 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Exactly. :up:
     
  12. Jul 16, 2008 #1532 of 10248
    analog4

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    Any problems with using a Seagate ST31000340NS (Barracuda ES.2 1TB)?
     
  13. Jul 16, 2008 #1533 of 10248
    richsadams

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    AFAIK you'd be the first to try this particular model but I don't see any reason that it wouldn't work. Although it's an enterprise class (server oriented) drive, unlike other Barracuda's the seek specs (2.5 to 2.7) are fairly quiet. The only downside I see is the cost...a number of other models can be purchased for less (especially when they are on sale). But if you have one lying around it seems like it should do the trick.

    Let us know how it goes!
     
  14. Jul 16, 2008 #1534 of 10248
    analog4

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    The downside is cost - but mine would be free.

    I figure I'll do the switch once I get my CableCard issue fixed, and I can clear off the existing programming - a few shows. Nothing a Saturday morning can't take care of. I'll read over the WinMFS stuff before I ask any specific questions. I plan to do a backup of the TiVo drive, then put the contents of my current TiVo drive to a 1TB, and I may use the MfsSuperSize option (still thinking about it).
     
  15. Jul 16, 2008 #1535 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Free is (usually) good! :up:

    Between bkdtv's excellent first post on this thread and Spike's more than excellent free program at MFSLive.org, you should have no problems.

    BTW, MFS SuperSize is a no-brainer...simply two additional clicks to gain some additional recording space.

    I always recommend keeping the original TiVo drive on the shelf JIC. If something goes south you can always pop it back in to get things up and running once more.

    Keep us posted. :)
     
  16. Jul 17, 2008 #1536 of 10248
    efreedenburg

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    Hi

    I have a Tivo Series 3 HD
    antec mx1 with Hitachi Deskstar 1000Gb HDS721010KLA330
    and a seagate free agent pro 750 gig

    With the MX-1 Hitachi combo after about 30 minutes Tivo will reboot or hang or pixilate with the mx1 and Hitachi. It is unwatchable.

    Divorce the esata everything runs perfectly.

    Plug in the Seagate and it runs perfectly for 3 weeks until I received the rma'd Hitachi drive.

    Installed the rmna'd drive in the mx-1 and what do you know?

    The new drive exhibits the exact the same problems, reboots freezes and pixilation.

    I have run the Hitachi advanced tests on the bare drive and it passes all tests.

    Ran the tests in the mx-1 and it fails.

    Soo, I plug in the Seagate Free Agent and everything is fine now for the last 8 days.

    Please help would like to use the Mx-1 and Hitachi Deskstar.

    Thanks for listening
    Ed
     
  17. Jul 17, 2008 #1537 of 10248
    greg_burns

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    Did you have it connected via USB or eSata to your PC while testing? Maybe try a new eSata cable, or get a replacement mx-1? Somebody reported here before that Antec was very helpful with exchanging theirs.
     
  18. Jul 17, 2008 #1538 of 10248
    husky55

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    @efreedenburg,

    I have the Hitachi and MX-1 and they work fine. The problem is in the MX-1 or esata cable since you already had 2 Hitachi HD used with the same problem.

    It's strange that the Seagate FreeAgent works for you.

    May be you could use a different computer to marry the drives i.e. run Winmfs.

    I had a weird failure of the Tivo box itself and was pulling my hair out figuring what could have gone wrong.
     
  19. Jul 17, 2008 #1539 of 10248
    efreedenburg

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    Will try to get RMA for the mx-1.

    Could someone post the Feature Tool settings for their working Hitachi Drive, maybe something is messed up with power management or cache etc. The mx-1 combo will run fine for about 30 minutes then goes beserk.

    I have not set anything in in Feature Tool, but maybe something is different.

    Thanks Again
    Ed
     
  20. Jul 17, 2008 #1540 of 10248
    Flyinace2000

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    Any changes for TivoHD users in 9.4 (can we use non approved eSATA drives?)
     

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