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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Mar 19, 2008 #1041 of 10248
    jlb

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    I know I should just upgrade the internal drive on my TiVoHD, but I also know I will just probably get a DVR Expander and go that "easy" route, knowing full well the + and - of doing it this way.

    What I am really hoping for is a 1TB Expander to be released. If one were, does anyone think that changes the general landscape of what one "should" do?

    I just have this real bad worry that I will kill my TiVo once I open it. That or my family asking why I lost our recordings or killed the Tivo.......
     
  2. Mar 19, 2008 #1042 of 10248
    sga000

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    TivoRepo, I'm no expert and haven't done my upgrade yet because I'm waiting for the disk to arrive. But if you look at my question on post #1029, then there are some responses #1032, 1033, 1034, 1036. Basically, most of those posts say that doing the internal upgrade makes sense. But you can always change your mind, as #1032 and 1034 say. The posts by these guys have convinced me to go with the internal upgrade for now, and if I need more space in the future (doubtful!), I could see what's available at that time and add it externally.

    From what I have read on here, the WD10EVCS should work internally and externally (with Antec MX-1), for both the Series 3 and Tivo HD. But I don't think it has been tried in all 4 situations. I believe the biggest question was whether it would work internally in the Series 3, and someone has already done that successfully. I'm not sure if anyone has used it internally in the Tivo HD yet, but I will be trying that when my disk arrives. Finally, almost for sure, it will work externally on both Series 3 and Tivo HD.
     
  3. Mar 20, 2008 #1043 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Unless one leaves some evidence of the box being opened, TiVo's 30 day parts and labor/1 year labor warranties are still in effect as long as the unit is returned to it's original status for an exchange.

    The WD10EVCS has been successfully installed and tested as an internal upgrade in at least two Series3's. There's no reason to believe that there would be any issues when upgrading a TiVo HD or using it as an expansion drive for the Series3 via plug and play or with the TiVo HD (with the required configuration using WinMFS to marry the internal and external drives).

    Antec's MX-1 is one of the recommended enclosures on the first post of this thread. Ours worked flawlessly with our Series3 for over eight months. :up:
     
  4. Mar 20, 2008 #1044 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Please let us know how your TiVo HD upgrade using the new Western Digital AV GP WD10EVCS drive goes. :up:
     
  5. Mar 20, 2008 #1045 of 10248
    tivorepo

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    Thanks to all. It may be a week or two but when I get it running I will post my results. I plan to purchase this one.
     
  6. Mar 20, 2008 #1046 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sounds good. AFAIK no one has ever used that vendor before. It would be good to know what your experience is with them as well.

    If there are any ordering issues, buy.com has it for a dollar more ($244.99 w/free shipping) and many folks here swear by them. (More here)
     
  7. Mar 20, 2008 #1047 of 10248
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  8. Mar 20, 2008 #1048 of 10248
    richsadams

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  9. Mar 20, 2008 #1049 of 10248
    chewy2314

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    Northern...
    Any who gets this, please let us know if it works. I've tried both the 750Gb and 500Gb versions (both models ended with -00xxx) and I have no luck on getting either to work in TivoHD. Thanks in advance!
     
  10. Mar 20, 2008 #1050 of 10248
    peternelson

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    I installed a Western Digital 1TB WD10EVCS internally in my TiVoHD last weekend. Everything went well. I posted about it in this thread earlier this week.
     
  11. Mar 20, 2008 #1051 of 10248
    tivorepo

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    Onsale.com didn't work out too well either as they are now out of stock.

    If I am going to go internal on the TivoHD I may as well try this model just above from dtphonehome. This is a "green" model running at 5400? I assume it's ok since you guys are recommending it but the below comments from days past make me nervous:

     
  12. Mar 20, 2008 #1052 of 10248
    dwit

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    The drive in the link is a pure WD drive and should have no Cavalry association. I think the Cavalry there has been mentioned as a misprint.

    I think the problems mentioned were with the Calvary enclosures these drives may have been sold in.
     
  13. Mar 20, 2008 #1053 of 10248
    tivorepo

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    Dwit how sure are you that it is a "misprint". It seems the Cavalry brand is a Wester Digital brand "green" version. Am I about to make a mistake? :eek: Either way if you guys feel it will work internally on the TivoHD then I'm game.
     
  14. Mar 20, 2008 #1054 of 10248
    dtphonehome

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    I think you're mistaken...the Cavalry drive mentioned above is indeed a WD, not a special "green" version. WD sells the identical drive themselves, but cavalry packages it with cables and software under their own brand.
     
  15. Mar 20, 2008 #1055 of 10248
    chewy2314

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    Northern...
    Did you happen to note the model suffix on your new drive?
     
  16. Mar 20, 2008 #1056 of 10248
    jlib

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    Carmel...
    There are no regular desktop 1TB drives listed at WD. So, does that mean it is a "Green Power" one?
     
  17. Mar 20, 2008 #1057 of 10248
    dwit

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    Based on what I have read here in these forums, I would bet my money that the WD10EACS will work in a TivoHD, but I wouldn't bet your's.
     
  18. Mar 20, 2008 #1058 of 10248
    jlib

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    Carmel...
    It looks like Cavalry really is reselling the WD10EACS.
    That is the first sub $200 price. Nice!
     
  19. Mar 20, 2008 #1059 of 10248
    mstenzel

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    I have a hard drive sitting around and would like to expand my TivoHD. I've read the FAQ and many, many posts and realize that ONLY the WD MyDVR Expander will work as an external (unless I want to open up my box, which I don't).

    Being a bargain hunter, I'm very tempted to get the Antec MX-1 on sale now, but only if there's a chance that it could some day be plug and play. I know that the S3 is more liberal on this, but does anyone think that the Tivo/WD exclusivity for the TivoHD is likely to be a permanent reality? I won't bother with the purchase if there's no chance for its use.

    Oh, and by the way, the spare HD I have is IDE. So, let's just assume that I could use the Antec on the TivoHD (because Tivo loosened up or I decided to open the box) -- would using an IDE-to-SATA adapter like this make everything kosher, or would I be wasting my time because of driver incompatibility?

    Thanks a bunch.
     
  20. Mar 20, 2008 #1060 of 10248
    dwit

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    It's been suggested that it was never intended for any old drive to work in a p&p manner. Even for the S3, it was a slip up that will be allowed to continue as an (unsupported?) bonus.

    So it is likely, that only Tivo approved drives will ever be supported. That's not to say it will always only be WD. Would be nice if there was a little competition to help lower prices.
     

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