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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 11, 2017 #10261 of 10306
    HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if you really need to change it at all since AV-GP drives have it totally disabled. I missed the (N-128) part in the MAN page I looked at and thought it was just N*30 seconds.

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  2. Jan 11, 2017 #10262 of 10306
    Spl7

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    Nope, the man page didn't say it, but the source code does. It writes a single bite as a parameter to change the drive's idle value and the only way to get 300 seconds is with the calculation of (N-128)*30

    As for the Drive not needing it, well all I can say is now my 651260 is finally chugging along happily after I set the value to 300.
     
  3. Jan 11, 2017 #10263 of 10306
    lpwcomp

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    A WD20EZRX isn't an AV-GP drive.
     
  4. Jan 11, 2017 #10264 of 10306
    HerronScott

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    Right, which was why I pointed him to disabling Intellipark to solve his problem. ;)

    My point was that setting it to a very high value shouldn't be a problem versus setting it back down to 300 seconds *since* AV-GP drives have it totally disabled.

    Scott
     
  5. Jan 11, 2017 #10265 of 10306
    HerronScott

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    Sorry apparently I wasn't clear, I meant you could have left it set to whatever 255 works out to be in seconds (3810?) and I don't think it really needs to be 300 seconds specifically since the AV-GP drive has it totally disabled.

    Scott
     
  6. Jan 26, 2017 #10266 of 10306
    videobruce

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    I cheated and used WinMFS to copy a 652 image to a 1TB drive. It's only showing 908 hrs for 'DTV' recording (MFSTool shows 1181hrs). It appears I was successful doing a "software update" when I ran GS using 00000 for the zip code.
    I did check supersize. I can't see to find any notes I had for the steps to enlarge this to fill the entire 1TB, nor can I find where it is here (with everything spread over so many threads. i know this is missing additional partition(s) from what I remember from some years ago.

    Using MFSTool, what would the next command line(s) be?

    MFS volume maybe expanded 3x original.JPG
     

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  7. Jan 26, 2017 #10267 of 10306
    ThAbtO

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    Its called "MFSAdd" under the same menu you find SuperSize.
     
  8. Jan 26, 2017 #10268 of 10306
    videobruce

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    Saw that, tried that twice, no results. Message was; "Nothing to add".
     
  9. Jan 26, 2017 #10269 of 10306
    ThAbtO

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    The problem may be it can only be "expanded" just once. If that image was expanded before, you need to use one that hasn't been expanded.
     
  10. Jan 26, 2017 #10270 of 10306
    jmbach

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    You have reached the maximum number of partitions an internal drive can have. You can expand the image more but with an external drive.

    I would recommend copying from the source drive to the new drive using MFSTools 3.2 using the command mfstool copy -ai /dev/sdX /dev/sdY. Replacing X and Y with the appropriate letter assigned to the drive. It will copy and expand at the same time.
     
  11. Jan 27, 2017 #10271 of 10306
    videobruce

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    According to the summary I posted above, it can be expanded three more times.

    The original 160GB drive software is corrupted, due to all the S/W versions that were apparently added at once. Of course if there was the ability to manually update one at a time instead of their 'automatic' process, I'm sure it wouldn't of gotten that way.
    I do have a few 'images' I found in my travels, which is where the 1TB drive got it's from. I really don't want to go thru that annoyance of another software update which I assume was successful though I haven't gotten past GS yet (purposely).

    jmbach;
    Using MFS Tool instead of WinMFS, what would be the command line to add what appears to be missing partitions to expand this? Isn't that the real problem, I do remember that being the issues a few years ago, but I can't find where it was discussed?
    What would the command line be for restoring the drive from a file instead of using WinMFS?
     
  12. Jan 27, 2017 #10272 of 10306
    HerronScott

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    I'm sure jmbach will respond with the real technical details, but I thought 15 was the maximum number of partitions that it will support (I think you can add a 16th but the MFS ones are added in pairs) so you can't add another pair. But we upgraded our original S3 OLED TiVo's from the original 250GB to 1TB after a year or so with WinMFS and then 6 years later upgraded from the 1TB drive to a 2TB drive also using WinMFS and it just increased the size of the 15th partition.

    I just looked and the name of the 15th partition changed from "MFS Media by Winmfs" on the 1TB drives to "MFS Expanded by Winmfs" on the 2TB drives (size changed from 698GB to 1.6GB on an S3 OLED). I guess the question is why didn't Winmfs expand the partition size for you?

    Scott
     
  13. Jan 27, 2017 #10273 of 10306
    videobruce

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    Easier to read here:

    Partition Maps
    #: type name length base ( size )
    1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63@1 ( 31.5K)
    2 Image Bootstrap 1 1@309550766 ( 512.0 )
    3 Image Kernel 1 8192@309550767 ( 4.0M)
    4 Ext2 Root 1 524288@309558959 ( 256.0M)
    5 Image Bootstrap 2 1@310083247 ( 512.0 )
    6 Image Kernel 2 8192@310083248 ( 4.0M)
    7 Ext2 Root 2 524288@310091440 ( 256.0M)
    8 Swap Linux swap 262144@310615728 ( 128.0M)
    9 Ext2 /var 524288@310877872 ( 256.0M)
    10 MFS MFS application region 589824@311402160 ( 288.0M)
    11 MFS MFS media region 137630712@171920054 ( 65.6G)
    12 MFS MFS application region 2 589824@311991984 ( 288.0M)
    13 MFS MFS media region 2 171919990@64 ( 82.0G)
    14 MFS MFS App by Winmfs 2048@312581808 ( 1.0M)
    15 MFS MFS Media by Winmfs 1640939520@312583856 ( 782.5G)

    Total SA SD Hours: 1040 Total DTV SD Hours: 908 100 % Free
    Software: 11.0m-01-2-652 Tivo Model: TCD652160
     
  14. Jan 27, 2017 #10274 of 10306
    jmbach

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    It looks like WinMFS expanded the last partition so that about 1TB is used for recordings.
     
  15. Jan 27, 2017 #10275 of 10306
    videobruce

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    Looks like you are right. I was mixing up hours & MB's. :( I checked the TiVo System Info and it does report 157 hrs.
    BUT,
    the TSN is blank. Does that have anything to do with the 00000 zip code entered??

    System Info no TSN 1TB in 652.JPG
     
  16. Jan 27, 2017 #10276 of 10306
    jmbach

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    It has to do with the image coming from another unit. You need to do a clear and delete everything to get the TSN to appear. It also may require a call to the TiVo servers.
    (Sometimes have to do the cd&e twice for 5he TSN to appear)
     
  17. Jan 27, 2017 #10277 of 10306
    videobruce

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    Isn't the TSN burned into a chip on the main board?
    More nonsense. :mad:

    Right now, it's in the "Please wait" endless stage due to Rovi's crap data and this having issues with it. It wasn't a problem with the 00000 zip where only those west coast stations got downloaded, but with a actual zip code complete with the duplicate channel listings it's Twilight Zone time.
     
  18. Jan 27, 2017 #10278 of 10306
    jmbach

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    The TSN is burned into the chip but until the TSN of the image matches the chip on the unit the TiVo's function is impaired. Running the cd&e marries that image to the TSN on the chip.
     
  19. Jan 28, 2017 #10279 of 10306
    videobruce

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    Thanks jmbach. Like I said; more nonsense.

    The "impairment" seems to be related to Rovi's guide data. I was able to 'glide' thru the GS when I used a blank zipcode in OTA only. Now, it hangs after the Setup Info step as it did before. Even after two well over EIGHT hour 'waits', it's still stuck.
     
  20. Feb 5, 2017 #10280 of 10306
    unitron

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    If you don't remember last time you replaced a particular 2032 coin cell in a particular device, go ahead and replace it, and this time use a Sharpie to write the replacement date on the new battery.

    A voltmeter isn't necessarily going to give you useful info on one of those batteries, you need to use a battery tester that puts it under load.
     

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