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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Mar 14, 2008 #981 of 10248
    richsadams

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    That's correct, 144 hours. And it's very easy to do providing you want to R&R your drive once more.

    [​IMG]

    Congrats on a job well done...even if it took a little "extra effort". ;)
     
  2. Mar 14, 2008 #982 of 10248
    faerie

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    bkdtv

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    I added the bit on supersize to the instructions in the first post.
     
  4. Mar 14, 2008 #984 of 10248
    ThAbtO

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  5. Mar 15, 2008 #985 of 10248
    robostock

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    This is also a great and VERY sturdy HD adaptor.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066&Tpk=blacx

    One of my internal HD was going bad and I was able to easily transfer the files to another PC.
     
  6. Mar 15, 2008 #986 of 10248
    b_scott

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    i installed the MyDVR expander last night - had the black screen problem mentioned earlier. i just unplugged and replugged and it ended up going through just fine. odd.

    86 hours HD!
     
  7. Mar 15, 2008 #987 of 10248
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  8. Mar 16, 2008 #988 of 10248
    ccoulson

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    The original FAQ states "The new "plug and play" eSATA expansion support does not work if you upgrade the built-in drive on the TiVoHD and Series3."

    What constitutes an "upgraded" built-in drive? I replaced my original drive with one from WeaKnees - which comes pre-partitioned and pre-installed with Tivo s/w. Does this preclude me from using eSATA expansion on my S3?
     
  9. Mar 16, 2008 #989 of 10248
    moxie1617

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    It excludes you from a plug and play expansion. You can still expand but you have to pull the drive and use the tools described in the FAQ. (III.10)
     
  10. Mar 16, 2008 #990 of 10248
    Acropora

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    Anyone figure out how to quiet a drive using mfs?
    I used usb to esata connectors to do the upgrade to a 1tb wd but now there's a cricket clicking in my s3.. :cool:
     
  11. Mar 17, 2008 #991 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    You can use the Hitachi Tools CD, as per Section III, FAQ #29.

    It can also be done with the MFSLive Linux boot CD. It cannot be done in WinMFS.
     
  12. Mar 17, 2008 #992 of 10248
    HPD

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    Ad me to the list. I just used WinMFS to turn my Series 3 into a 2 Terabyte Tivo. Thank you to the creator of WinMFS. It was easy, but it would be nice if you fixed it so that the GUI updates its progress. Many times during the 1.25 hours I was tempted to abort because it looked like it was hanging.
     
  13. Mar 17, 2008 #993 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Congrats on all of that new space!

    Spike (the creator of WinMFS) has noted the issue with the program's appearance that it may be hanging a while back and IIRC said he was working on it. In the meantime he recommended having the task manager (or even better Process Explorer) open which will allow users to see that it's still active.

    Enjoy! :up:
     
  14. Mar 17, 2008 #994 of 10248
    derspiess

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    Excellent-- I'll give that a shot tonight. Thanks!

    Just out of curiosity, what does Supersize actually 'do' to the drive to add space?
     
  15. Mar 17, 2008 #995 of 10248
    sga000

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    The sata-to-usb adapter referred to in the first post is a Vantec brand. Its description on their site says "currently supports up to 500gb". Is this an old description, or is it something I should worry about if I'm going to get a 1TB drive for my Tivo HD? Thanks!
     
  16. Mar 17, 2008 #996 of 10248
    richsadams

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    According to Spike at MFSLive.org, adding "supersize" frees up extra reserved space used for storing tivoclips. More here.
     
  17. Mar 17, 2008 #997 of 10248
    ccoulson

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    Another question from the original FAQ - does the above really apply to *all* recordings since the eSATA expansion was added, or only those recordings with some/all data stored on the eSATA drive?
     
  18. Mar 17, 2008 #998 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Good question. I actually have had a few recordings that were made after I added an eSATA drive (and removed it) remain. All (3 IIRC) were SD recordings. But for the most part, everything was and would be lost.

    After adding an eSATA drive, recordings are "striped" meaning information can be/is included on both the internal and expansion drive. TiVo software basically handles both drives as one large drive. I remember people trying to listen to their TiVo's and the eSATA drive during recordings to see if they could tell which one or if both were working. I don't think that "scientific experiment" ever proved fruitful. ;)
     
  19. Mar 17, 2008 #999 of 10248
    esb1981

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    Okay, so I'm taking the plunge and upgrading to the internal 750gb Seagate drive. I'm afraid that I'll mess this up and my wife will be very unhappy with me if we lose Tivo functionality or recordings! So I just have a few questions for advice.

    If I want to save my recordings - typically we only have about 10-15 recordings on the drive that we would definitely need to keep - what is my best bet? Should I use Tivo-to-Go? Should I connect via USB/SATA adapter and use the MFScopy tool? My concern is the USB/SATA adapter will take way too long to transfer the data, and the TTG will cause problems in the transfers since I've seen that happen a few times. If I go straight SATA connection with the drives to the inside of the computer (not sure if I can since I haven't opened the PC yet), how long would it take to transfer everything?

    Do I have to "clear and delete" the entire drive if I elect to use the standard backup/copy that does not transfer the recordings and settings?

    Any advice would be appreciated. Reading this thread it seems like it's doable, but then again I have a tendency to screw things up!
     
  20. Mar 17, 2008 #1000 of 10248
    peternelson

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    I installed a 1TB Western Digital WD10EVCS in my new TiVoHD over the weekend and had no problems. I bought the drive from Buy.com, and it arrived packaged very well. I believe the drive sold for about $245 at the time, but I got the drive for just over $200 with shipping after a $50 discount for opening up a "Revolution" credit card through Buy.com.

    I used WinMFS as described at the bottom of the first post in this thread using "MfsBackup" to initially backup the original drive, and then "MfsCopy" to copy it to the new drive. I also ran "MfsAdd" and "MfsSuperSize" after the copying process. Since I had no saved recordings, the process went really quickly.

    Everything worked well, and I've now got 144 HD hours reported!
     

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