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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 12, 2014 #9821 of 10248
    adischin

    adischin New Member

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    Going to do that tomorrow night after work. Fingers crossed....

    In the meantime I went back through old posts and saw Scott's cap list for the AcBel PS which is what I have, here are the ones that Scott posted that I need:

    C14 2200uF 16V Panasonic EEU-FR1C222 P14402-ND $1.01
    C27 2200uF 16V Panasonic EEU-FR1C222 P14402-ND $1.01
    C17 2200uF 16V Panasonic EEU-FR1C222 P14402-ND $1.01

    It sounds like there might be a different version of this with different dimensions (which is what I received from Mouser), anyone ordered these caps recently with success? If so, where from? Mouser was where I got the last round and they are fine, but OK to order from anywhere at this point.

    As always, thank you all for your help!
     
  2. Jan 12, 2014 #9822 of 10248
    adischin

    adischin New Member

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    Just posted a reply to Unitron's last post, but I can tell you I have the AcBel PS in my 658, also have the 3Y in the parts 652 I bought (which works fine, just no subscripton - couple of bulging caps though). I need these locations:

    C14 2200uF 16V Panasonic EEU-FR1C222 P14402-ND $1.01
    C27 2200uF 16V Panasonic EEU-FR1C222 P14402-ND $1.01
    C17 2200uF 16V Panasonic EEU-FR1C222 P14402-ND $1.01

    Where did you get yours?
     
  3. Jan 15, 2014 #9823 of 10248
    HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    I had not actually replaced the capacitors in my HD (no need yet) but those part numbers are from DigiKey where I did buy the capacitors to fix the power supplies in my S3 OLED TiVo's. Did you measure the size of the current capacitors yet?

    Scott
     
  4. Jan 21, 2014 #9824 of 10248
    mike212

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    I've gone through the instructions to swap out a new 1TB drive for a previously upgraded 1TB drive in an Tivo HD.

    Following the 22. B. instructions, line item #15, Select Tools-> Mfsadd

    I get a message box saying Mfsadd failed! Followed by another box saying Error Number: 2 Error Message: Not enough room to force expand!

    The thing to note is that the drive I copied from was nearly full of shows (I forgot to clear out recently deleted and it was almost full of non-deleted shows). Do I need to put the original back in the tivo, delete some things and then re-run? I'd prefer to avoid that if possible.

    Thanks.
     
  5. Jan 21, 2014 #9825 of 10248
    lpwcomp

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    Is there a typo in your post? It indicates that you are just going to a new drive of the same size so there would be nothing to add.
     
  6. Jan 21, 2014 #9826 of 10248
    losaltos

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    How did you make the duplicate drive? There are many sets of instructions out there.
     
  7. Jan 21, 2014 #9827 of 10248
    mike212

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    It's correct, I'm going from 1TB to 1TB drive (the old one is 5 yrs + old and making unhealthy sounding noises).

    So I guess that means its fine as is. I was just going through the directions step by step without really thinking about what each portion was trying to accomplish, but what you are saying makes sense - there is nothing to add so its fine. Thanks.
     
  8. Jan 21, 2014 #9828 of 10248
    mike212

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  9. Jan 22, 2014 #9829 of 10248
    Red NSX

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    New here, like many other forums there is an enormous amount of info here. I would like to thank those that put all of their energy to helping others with a common interest. Bravo.

    Is upgrading a hard drive as easy as it seams here? I have medium computer skills. Between my friends and myself we have about 8, S3 HDs and S3 HD XLs. It would be nice to find a way to replace a hard drive for under $100. Having roughly all the same units should simplify the process.

    I have a Dell Win7 desktop and am looking at a WD hard drive, WD20EURS for $80.

    What do you think? Should I give it a try?

    Thanks
     
  10. Jan 22, 2014 #9830 of 10248
    mattack

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    Wait, "S3 HD XLs" really means Tivo HD, right? If so, you can use the jmfs CD, which makes it VERY easy.

    You have to do command line tools manually (which still isn't hard, but if you do it wrong, you can hose the wrong drive) with S3 and earlier.
     
  11. Jan 22, 2014 #9831 of 10248
    unitron

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    But if you use WinMFS, which isn't all that difficult, you can make a truncated backup file of the original drive as well, which may come in handy down the road.
     
  12. Jan 22, 2014 #9832 of 10248
    unitron

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    Who's got the EURS for $80?
     
  13. Jan 22, 2014 #9833 of 10248
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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  14. Jan 23, 2014 #9834 of 10248
    Red NSX

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    I guess I should have been clearer, the HD is a TCD652160and the HD XL is a TCD658000.

    ThAbtO is right, a Amazon vendor has the 2TB drives, and cheaper than the 1TB.

    I am not so sure about jmfs as I have no knowledge of any command line prompts. I am sure there are posts that explain it well. But if WinMFS can do it without command lines it would simplify my work. Right.

    Unitron, what does truncated copy mean, it sounds more complicated than make a copy.
     
  15. Jan 23, 2014 #9835 of 10248
    unitron

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    It means that when you back up a 160GB drive, you wind up with a file small enough to fit on a cd-r and not so big that it needs another 160GB drive.

    It's what the original MFS Tools, from which spike derived the MFS Live cd, and WinMFS, which he also wrote, turn out as a combination of general file compression techniques and including only the actual TiVo software and the instructions on what size the partitions are supposed to be.

    MFS Tools/MFS Live turn out image files with the .bak extension and WinMFS creates them with a .tbk extension.

    They aren't interchangeable.

    WinMFS can't/won't use the .bak files and the command line software doesn't understand spike's .tbk format.
     
  16. Jan 23, 2014 #9836 of 10248
    Red NSX

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    Thanks for the explanation. It is amazing how this forum with people like you are continuously helping the less educated. Hopefully I will be able to share as well.

    I bought a 2TB hard drive and will put it into the 658000 HD XL. It is dead right now so I will have to find an image to use.

    Thnanks
     
  17. Jan 23, 2014 #9837 of 10248
    silentguy

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    I just upgraded a TIVO HD Series 3 from 160gb to 2TB.

    I used WD20EURS 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive - OEM
    $95 from NEWEGG free shipping.


    Here are my notes. Information I got mostly from this FAQ and the internet.
    It may help others.

    I could do everything but the Acoustic Management which I dont think is critical.

    My HD recording hours went from 21 to 318 hours.

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    Instructions to upgrade a Tivo HD Series 3 160gb system to 2TB.

    Use number 10 torx bit to remove tivo cover

    Remove Tivo original drive and plug into SATA of Windows 7 PC.
    Unplug SATA and power of original Windows 7 drive

    Plug in to SATA new 2TB Western Digital 2TB WD EURS Green drive to Windows 7 PC

    Make sure DVD ROM Drive is plugged into sata of Windows 7 PC.

    Configure Windows 7 PC to boot from DVD ROM first.


    3 SATA Devices should be connected to the Windows 7 PC

    1. Original TIVO 160gb drive
    2. New Western Digital 2TB drive (No need to format it)
    3. DVD ROM Drive


    Put into DVD ROM JFMS 1.04 BOOT CD

    Boot and follow instrutions to copy Original TIVO drive to NEW Western Digital 2TB drive

    The copy without any preservation of recordings takes about 1 hour

    After Copy is complete EXPAND the drive using JFMS as it requests.

    Do not SUPERSIZE with JFMS, but use WINFMS.EXE under Windows 7 instead.

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    Disable the idle time drive head park function:

    Boot Ultimate Boot CD UBCD with wdidle3

    1. Exit to Free Dos.

    Use these DOS commands :

    T:
    cd ubcd\dosapps\wdidle3
    wdidle3.exe /d

    A successful output looks like this :


    idle3 Timer is disabled



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    Try to adjust acoustic management.
    This did not work for the WD EURS drive.
    It said AAM not supported.


    RUN as ADMINISTRATOR in Windows 7
    HDDScan.exe

    Select the Tivo Drive from the drop down menu
    Click Round Blue New Task button
    Select Features -> IDE Features
    Drag Slider all the way to left until it reads 128
    Click Set

    This did not work for the WD EURS drive.

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    Can also try Hitachi Feature Tool Boot CD
    Choose AAM
    Set AAM value to 128
    Click OK

    This did not work for the WD EURS drive.

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    Using Windows 7 OS.
    Use WINMFS for SUPERSIZE and BACKUPS only
    Backup the original TIVO 160gb drive
    Backup the new WD 2TB drive


    RUN as ADMINISTRATOR in Windows 7

    WinMFS.exe

    File -> Select TIVO Drive

    File -> Backup

    create Truncated Backup, Boot, Kernel



    To Supersize

    Select Tools -> MfsSuperSize -> On


    Power Down
    Disconnect drives
    Put New 2TB in Tivo

    SIZE of recording space should increased from:
    280gb to 318gb HD hours
    2,777 SD hours
     
  18. Jan 23, 2014 #9838 of 10248
    unitron

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    Not the most recent version, but it'll get you started.

    You'll have to use WinMFS

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49887720/658000.tbk

    After you restore it to the drive, when it offers to expand, say no.

    (Cause sometimes it only looks like it worked)

    Then test it.

    Then go back and expand using the

    mfsadd

    command in WinMFS.

    EDIT TO ADD:

    Before putting that new 2TB drive into service, run the manufacturer's diagnostic long test on it.
     
  19. Jan 23, 2014 #9839 of 10248
    unitron

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    Nothing against jmfs, but you could have done it all with WinMFS.
     
  20. Jan 24, 2014 #9840 of 10248
    Red NSX

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    Thanks Unitron for the 658000 image. Unitron, when I get this all done would you like an updated image for the 658000? After I expand the drive wouldn't I also have to supersize it as well.
     

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