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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 7, 2013 #9281 of 10248
    John Wilson

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    Chippewa...
    Maybe you did this already but did you run widdle on this drive? I think that you need to run this on newer WD drives or they will have issues with the warm restart as you mentioned.

    Just a suggestion. :)

     
  2. Jan 7, 2013 #9282 of 10248
    unitron

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    Apparently you neglected to run wdidle3 on that EARX.

    It's not too late.
     
  3. Jan 7, 2013 #9283 of 10248
    unitron

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    You have to run it on WD Caviar Green drives, but the A/V specific drives, even though they may have "green" somewhere in the name or label, apparently don't have it (Intellipark) enabled by default.

    And apparently Caviar Blacks, Blues, and Reds don't have it at all.
     
  4. Jan 7, 2013 #9284 of 10248
    John Wilson

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    Chippewa...
    What unitron said. :)

    Tomato, potato. :D
     
  5. Jan 7, 2013 #9285 of 10248
    unitron

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    You know what they say about great minds running in the same rut.
     
  6. Jan 7, 2013 #9286 of 10248
    ThAbtO

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    I couldn't because I didn't have a way to boot to DOS and not into Windows.

    BTW, the 10EAVS lasted 2.25 yrs. I also tried to extract everything out of the drive, WinMFS said it was a Tivo drive, but MSInfo in WinMFS said it was not a Tivo drive.
     
  7. Jan 7, 2013 #9287 of 10248
    unitron

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    And mfsinfo on the MFS Live cd would have probably said something about a corrupt header.

    If you can boot from a cd, you can use the Ultimate Boot CD, which has wdidle3 on it.

    There might be some way to put it on a USB stick if you can boot from one of those.
     
  8. Jan 7, 2013 #9288 of 10248
    jmbach

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    For Linux based iso you can use UNetbootin to create bootable USB stick. For Windows based iso you can use ISOtoUSB. Works well for most windows based iso.
    For a DOS bootable USB use HP drive storage Utility.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. Jan 8, 2013 #9289 of 10248
    ac3dd

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    WDIDLE3 needs a raw DOS environment, so the Linux- and Windows-based options won't be useful for it.
     
  10. Jan 10, 2013 #9290 of 10248
    MaverickRK

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    The original post for this thread is almost 6 years old, with an update in 2010, and there are 310 pages. Is there somewhere I can find a new list of drives I can buy to replace the internal drive on a Tivo HD, and are there current instructions? Thanks.
     
  11. Jan 10, 2013 #9291 of 10248
    unitron

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    Are you still running the original 160GB?


    (be looking for a WD20EURS at around $100)
     
  12. Jan 10, 2013 #9292 of 10248
    MaverickRK

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    Yes, I am running the original drive, which I believe is a 160GB. I saw that Amazon has a 1TB WD10EURS for about $80. Since I cannot use more than 1TB, would that one work?

    And do you happen to know if this drives suffers from the "Intellipark" problem, and if it has to be set to the quiet vs performance setting, or does it come that way?

    Thanks
    Rick
     
  13. Jan 10, 2013 #9293 of 10248
    unitron

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    You can use up to 2TB in the S3 HD.

    Go here and read:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=462179

    I've got a TCD652160.

    I used WinMFS to "up" it from the original drive to a 1TB middleman, and then used the jmfs cd to copy that to a WD20EURS and expand.

    Others have gone straight from the 160 to the 2 without the middleman just using the jmfs cd.

    And you get more GB/$ witih a 2TB than anything smaller.

    That's even more true for a 3TB, but you can't use anything bigger than a 2TB in a TiVo.

    And the second WD20EURS I just recently purchased and haven't installed anywhere yet came with Intellipark already disabled.
     
  14. Jan 16, 2013 #9294 of 10248
    tluxon

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    I have two THD's that I upgraded to 750GB when I first got them. One of them had the 750GB die about 18 months ago and I upgraded it to 1TB using MFS Live, retaining all the recordings from the previous drive. The other THD still has the ''original'' 750GB upgrade drive in it which seems to be going strong, but now that I've seen a little about what can be done with comer's JMFS, I'm really interested in upgrading it to 2TB with a WD20EURS going for $100 right now at Newegg and Amazon.

    1) JMFS was written for upgrading a Premiere. Are there any issues with doing this upgrade on a TiVoHD?

    2) Should I anticipate any issues in copying directly from the 750GB upgrade drive to the new 2TB drive? (I see mention in the post above of a 1TB "middleman" step and wondered if/what that gains over going straight from the 750GB)

    3) It looks like I would use JMFS to do the bit-for-bit copy and then use WinMFS to do the Supersize. Do I have that about right?
     
  15. Jan 16, 2013 #9295 of 10248
    mattack

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    jmfs does work for Tivo HD. (It does NOT work with the OLED S3, though I don't think anybody figured out why.)

    That's the only answer I can give.
     
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    jmbach

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    tluxon

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    Cool. Would you recommend using WinMFS over JMFS then?

    Even though I've prefered to use the MFS Live CD with only the source and target HDDs attached in the past, I wouldn't actually NEED to use that method?
     
  18. Jan 16, 2013 #9298 of 10248
    mattack

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    jmfs is MUCH easier.
     
  19. Jan 16, 2013 #9299 of 10248
    jmbach

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    I have used both and it really is a wash. Since my computer normally has windows up I use WinMFS as it was handy and I could use my computer for other things while it is copying. JMFS leads you step by step to get the job done but unless you create a custom boot CD you won't be able to do much else with your computer.

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  20. Jan 17, 2013 #9300 of 10248
    unitron

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    My 1TB middleman method (which was born out of my desire to increase the size of the swap partition and keep all MFS Media partitions at or under 1TB) will not work with the MFS Live cd, because it always leaves a little extra space at the end which gets turned into an Apple Free partition, and jmfs sees that as a partition and copies it, which makes the partition it adds the 17th partition, and a TiVo can only have 16 per drive.

    Also, I don't know if it'll let you break the "no bigger than 1.2TB" rule the way WinMFS will.
     

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