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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Dec 19, 2012 #9261 of 10248
    a68oliver

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    The onscreen clock display still goes away upon a reboot. If you want to check for reboots, that way is immediately obvious.
     
  2. Dec 19, 2012 #9262 of 10248
    cjgadd3

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    I always knew when my HD rebooted, both tuners were on the same channel.
     
  3. Dec 19, 2012 #9263 of 10248
    steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Yup.

    And if you want to know the exact uptime of your Tivo since last reboot, go to 'DVR Diagnostics' and look for 'Time Since OOB Tune Start'.
     
  4. Dec 20, 2012 #9264 of 10248
    Soapm

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    So close,...
    That or you see two entries for the same show in the NPL.
     
  5. Dec 20, 2012 #9265 of 10248
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I suspect that number is truncated to six digits, which means it rolls around every 11.57 days (1 million secs). Right now it says my THD rebooted about 4 days ago, which I don't think is correct. Even if it does roll around, it's still useful for pinpointing reboot times (if you check it more often than every 11 days).
     
  6. Dec 20, 2012 #9266 of 10248
    lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    One of mine is currently sitting at 1666792 and counting. This is on a Premiere.

    Crud. Tried to check it on my THD and it hung. Had to do a hard boot.
     
  7. Dec 20, 2012 #9267 of 10248
    A J Ricaud

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  8. Dec 20, 2012 #9268 of 10248
    a68oliver

    a68oliver Member

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    Crawfordsvil...
    .

    My S3 OLED may have both tuners on the same channel and it didn't reboot because the clock display is still there. I don't know what causes the two tuners to end up on the same channel.

    Gee, I think we are drifting off topic.
     
  9. Dec 20, 2012 #9269 of 10248
    Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    If you have two shows recording back to back on the same channel, but they overlap at all (start recording one minute early etc.) then the box can end up like that.
     
  10. Dec 20, 2012 #9270 of 10248
    steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Actually it's seven digits, but your point still stands.
    Rollover after 115.74 days.

    I don't think my Tivo has gone that long without needing a reboot for some reason or other. :p

    Edit:

    Yes. I forgot where I was. :eek:
     
  11. Dec 21, 2012 #9271 of 10248
    ac3dd

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    Time Since OOB Tune Start = 1.34 million = 15.5 days, which matches the day of the hard drive upgrade.
     
  12. Dec 24, 2012 #9272 of 10248
    Marconi

    Marconi TiVo Junkie

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    This FAQ has not been updated in over two years. What are people using currently as a 1 TB drive in HD TiVos? Last I heard, the WD-AV-GP drives' "Intellipower" functionality was a problem. If WD drives are still the drive of choice, how does a lowly Mac user deal with the Intellipower issue?

    What are the current AV drives of choice?
     
  13. Dec 24, 2012 #9273 of 10248
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    The 2TB WD20EURS

    You can grab one from newegg or Amazon right now for $100

    A 1TB is going to cost you most of that.



    Apparently the EURS doesn't have it enabled in the first place, and it's "Intellipark" that's the problem with which wdidle3 deals.

    Can your Mac boot from and run the jmfs cd?
     
  14. Dec 24, 2012 #9274 of 10248
    Marconi

    Marconi TiVo Junkie

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    Will the THD be able to use more than 1 TB?





    Correct. Half credit for Intelli-something?
    I don't know. I've been successfully using mfslive v1.3. I don't even know what jmfs is. Have you a link to a download? I'll try it out. Thanks muchly.
     
  15. Dec 24, 2012 #9275 of 10248
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Learn about jmfs here:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=455968

    and then go here to learn about using it on the S3 HD instead of the Premiere

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=462179


    and go to mfslive.org and get v1.4 of MFS Live just to have it around.
     
  16. Dec 24, 2012 #9276 of 10248
    Marconi

    Marconi TiVo Junkie

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    Hmmm... Looks like I'd need WinMFS to do the supersize for the THD. Since I can't do that, what happens if I simply don't supersize? Will the jmfs'd drive work? Or is the whole purpose of jmfs over mfslive the supersizing? IOW, without WinMFS, I may as well stick with mfsLive. True or false?

    JMFS does boot the first generation iMac I use for TiVo drive work. I'm doing a 160->2000 GB copy now.
    I was mistaken; I do have 1.4.
     
  17. Dec 24, 2012 #9277 of 10248
    unitron

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    jmfs supersizes Premieres because WinMFS can't.

    (you can't use WinMFS or MFS Live on a Premiere because of some stuff TiVo changed)

    Since jmfs is designed to supersize Premieres, it won't work on S3s. But WinMFS will.

    WinMFS and MFS Live "exand" by adding another MFS partition pair.

    comer figured out something by looking at other people who "coalesced" partitions and came up with jmfs which expands by adding a single MFS Media partition.

    For some reason jmfs will also work on S3 HDs and HD XLs, though supposedly not the original S3. I have no idea why.

    So if you only have a Mac, you can, theoretically, copy a Premiere drive to a bigger drive, expand into the rest of the space, and supersize, all with jmfs.

    If you have an S3, you can use jmfs for the copy and expand part.

    If later you find out a friend has a PC running WinMFS, you can, I'm pretty sure, use it to supersize the drive which jmfs has already expanded.
     
  18. Dec 24, 2012 #9278 of 10248
    Marconi

    Marconi TiVo Junkie

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    Is there somewhere I can get an iso of a Premier drive? Since I have no Premiers myself...
    Painfully slow, compared to mfsLive. I suspect that JMFS just dd's the entire 160 GB drive to the larger drive.
    No doubt.
     
  19. Dec 24, 2012 #9279 of 10248
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    The only .iso of a Premiere drive is a Premiere drive, and if you don't have a Premiere it's of no use to you unless you want to go into business selling upgrade drives, in which case you really should have a Premiere in which to test them.

    I'm pretty sure jmfs uses

    ddrescue

    since it returns more info during the process than the Sphynx-like

    dd

    And yes, whether Premiere or S3 HD or HD XL, jmfs does a byte for byte copy before the expansion stage.

    Which means you lose no settings or recordings.
     
  20. Jan 6, 2013 #9280 of 10248
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    This morning my Tivo HD with a 10EAVS drive kinda died. I could watch the recorded shows with trick play (REW, FF, etc), but Live TV gave me problems, took a while for trick play to work, or didn't work. Last night, it rebooted on its own. It finally ended on the green screen.

    So this afternoon, went to Best buy and got a 10EARX, on sale for $80 (saved $5). I put my original WinMFS backup I had stored away on CD and restored to the new drive. Swapped out the Tivo drive with the new and the software was on 11.0h. Connected to Tivo and it did not download the guide data, instead it got the 11.0k.

    Its up and running now, but warm boot still not working only cold.
     

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