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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Feb 22, 2008 #901 of 10306
    ALK3011

    ALK3011 New Member

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    I am sorry for asking something that undoubtedly has been answered somewhere in the 30 plus pages of posts in this thread.

    I am looking for a simple way to expand my HD Tivo. I don't need a ton of memory or anything fancy. Is the "supported" Western Digital My DVR Expander good? Does it work? Are people happy with the performance of this item?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Feb 22, 2008 #902 of 10306
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    The Expander is the easiest way to expand storage, using any other drive you need to initialize following instructions posted elsewhere in this forum.
     
  3. Feb 22, 2008 #903 of 10306
    richsadams

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    A number of people have been using the WD My DVR Expander with their TiVo HD's for several months now and it's certainly on the "recommended" list on the first post of this thread. You can buy it from TiVo online or at Best Buy (which is the exclusive retailer) for $199.

    IIRC there was one member that said their drive arrived DOA and they were sent a replacement that worked. The only other issue that has come up (more than a few times) is the quality of the eSATA cable that comes with the drive which is used to connect the external drive to TiVo. Often the connection is loose or the connectors are poorly made and tend to disconnect when the drive is moved even slightly or the cable doesn't work at all. I haven't seen many complaints recently so they may resolved the issue. If for some reason the cable is bad, you can buy one that is known to work, the recommended SIIG Serial ATA external cable for less than $10. Other cable recommendations can be found on the first post of this thread. (#25)

    Bottom line is that they are working fine and if you're looking for an easy plug and play solution that's the one to get. As ThAbtO mentions, anything else will require some work, the details of which can be found on the first post as well.
     
  4. Feb 22, 2008 #904 of 10306
    ALK3011

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    THANKS!!!! Off to Best Buy
     
  5. Feb 26, 2008 #905 of 10306
    rooobosmith

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    Just want to report that I just installed a Maxtor 320GB drive with an I-Rocks eSata/USB enclosure with the TivoHD and it is working so far.
     
  6. Feb 26, 2008 #906 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum and congrats on a job well done. How did WinMFS work for you? Also, just curious...why did you opt for an external drive, that one in particular and why that enclosure? Guessing you had them lying around?
     
  7. Feb 27, 2008 #907 of 10306
    DingoAce10

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  8. Feb 27, 2008 #908 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Good thing you checked. Unfortunately per the first post on this thread - see Sec. I #2 and Sec. III #6 - plus numerous other posts, the WD My Book series does NOT work with TiVo. Plus the one you're looking at has a USB interface and TiVo requires an eSATA interface.

    If you're considering it for an internal replacement it's possible that it is an OEM version of the WD GP drive series which also does not work with TiVo Series3's internally. (Opening the case would also void the warranty.)

    It's best to stick with the recommended drives and/or enclosures listed on the first post of this thread.
     
  9. Feb 27, 2008 #909 of 10306
    DingoAce10

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    WOW! Thanks rich! I did not see that.
    No, actually was definitely going for the external option.
    Is there any eSATA external 1TB drives out there currently that will work with the Tivo S3?
    Or manybe a 750gig?

    If not I have no problem just settling for the 500gig MyDVR Extender.

    Thanks again!
     
  10. Feb 27, 2008 #910 of 10306
    logicman1

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    It takes about 10 minutes to build your own. Just follow the recommendations on the first page of Official eSATA Drive Expansion in 9.2: FAQ + Discussion in Section III, items 26, 27 and 28. I built one using the Seagate 750 gb ST3750840SCE and Antec MX-1. Piece of cake.
     
  11. Feb 27, 2008 #911 of 10306
    richsadams

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    As logicman1 suggests, it's pretty easy to make your own. I put together a similar one using the Antec MX-1 enclosure and a Seagate DB35 500GB drive last May or so and it worked perfectly with our Series3 until I removed it and installed a 1TB internally a few months ago. DIY allows you to go up to 1TB externally. Antec even has a video tutorial on their web site to show you how it's done.

    Others are using the Seagate Free Agent Pro external drive (up to 750GB) with some mixed success. The enclosure doesn't have a fan like the MX-1 so it needs plenty of ventilation. Plus the eSATA cables seem to give it some problems and may need replacing with one listed on the first post.

    Otherwise the WD My DVR Expander from TiVo or Best Buy is the easiest P&P option.

    WD is introducing a new line of DVR dedicated hard drives (500GB to 1TB) so they may begin showing up in a My DVR Expander one of these days, but it's hard to predict if or when. TiVo and WD have both said not to expect a larger "approved" expansion drive until at least late this year.
     
  12. Feb 27, 2008 #912 of 10306
    DingoAce10

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    Thanks! Yeah I definitely don't mind "building" my own external...Have don't it before for my PC...pretty much a peice of cake.
    I just figured that if there was a 1TB external out there that was already "working" I would pick that one up.
    I will check out the enclosures and HDDs
    Thanks!
     
  13. Feb 27, 2008 #913 of 10306
    rooobosmith

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    WinMFS was a snap. Kudos to the developers.

    I'm using an external drive, in order to take advantage of the additional space of the internal drive. 320GB is not much.

    I got the I-Rocks case cause Meritline had them for $10 AR.

    I got the Maxtor for $60 from Frys.

    IOW, it was a cheap solution.
     
  14. Feb 27, 2008 #914 of 10306
    richsadams

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    $70 for more space...who can argue that? Enjoy! :up:
     
  15. Feb 28, 2008 #915 of 10306
    ymeworry

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    Just picked up the the my dvr expander tonight, up and running in under 10 minutes (and 2 reboots).
     
  16. Feb 29, 2008 #916 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Nice to hear everything went smoothly. Enjoy! :up:
     
  17. Mar 2, 2008 #917 of 10306
    brewman

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    I just ordered the WD10EVCS from Buy.com (supposedly they're in stock) to use as an internal upgrade for an S3. I bought my S3 when they first came out and it still has it's original drive (no external drive either). I'm going to install the new drive as soon as I get it and I'll post my results.



     
  18. Mar 3, 2008 #918 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Excellent. :up: We'll look forward to hearing how things turn out. Best of luck and TIA.
     
  19. Mar 3, 2008 #919 of 10306
    jlib

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    Thanks for willingly plunging into the line of fire to test the WD10EVCS. It will be great if you discover it is not infected by the S3 soft-reboot bug its two 1TB siblings have.
     
  20. Mar 3, 2008 #920 of 10306
    dolfer

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    "Do not run the eSATA cord by an amplifier, speaker, or any other device with a
    strong magnetic field."

    Do you think it's ok to place your My DVR Expander next to your center speaker? Would this qualify as a "strong magnetic field?"
     

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