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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Feb 4, 2008 #841 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Thus the rest of my post...

     
  2. Feb 5, 2008 #842 of 10248
    BruceShultes

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    You also may want to consider getting another esata cable from someplace like SIIG.

    Even though my S3 recognized the external drive when I first attached it, I kept having problems until I replaced the cable supplied with my esata enclosure.
     
  3. Feb 5, 2008 #843 of 10248
    ashu

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    Ummm - he bought his pre-upgraded S3 in October of 2006 - it no longer has a warranty. Even if it were Oct 2007, the parts warranty (or is it labor?) is nigh over.
     
  4. Feb 5, 2008 #844 of 10248
    richsadams

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    You're referring to this post by d j h about adding an expansion drive to his upgraded Series3 (which was indeed purchased back in '06).

    My (and CharlesH) post about the warranty was in response to this post by dpfelsh regarding his new TiVo HD.

    It's easy to get confused around here sometimes. ;)
     
  5. Feb 6, 2008 #845 of 10248
    CTLesq

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    Mr. Adams,

    I see that you have a 1TB internal HD for your Series3.

    I have a Series3 as well and am interested in doing the same with my TiVo.

    Can you explain how you did that or a vendor that can provide that service? I would be more interested in paying a vendor to do it than to do it myself.)

    Please feel free to PM me if it is more appropriate.

    Thank you for your time.

    CTL
     
  6. Feb 6, 2008 #846 of 10248
    ciper

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    CTLesq: Section three step 11 of this very FAQ covers this.
     
  7. Feb 6, 2008 #847 of 10248
    drhankz

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    He most likely did it by reading the FIRST Post in This Thread.
     
  8. Feb 6, 2008 #848 of 10248
    ThAbtO

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  9. Feb 6, 2008 #849 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Mr. Adams was my father...you'll just have to settle for me. ;)

    As others have mentioned you can probably find the info you need on the very first post of this thread. Although it's called the "Official eSATA Drive Expansion: FAQ + Discussion", the excellent info collected by bkdtv also discusses internal upgrades. See the very last section, #30.

    That said, it's terribly simple to do it yourself if you're at all comfortable opening your PC and connecting a hard drive. There's a program called WinMFS available for free at http:www.mfslive.org. It basically involves removing the existing hard drive from TiVo (very easy), connecting it to your PC (via a SATA connection ideally) along with your new hard drive and running the WinMFS program. A few simple commands later and you pop the new drive in your TiVo and Bob's your uncle (still don't know what that means). The program copies the info on your current drive to the new drive, allows the new size to work with it and that's about it. It took me more time to R&R the hard drives than to actually run the WinMFS program. :)

    You have a couple of choices when it comes to hard drives. The Western Digital drive I used is no longer being offered in a "retail" version and the OEM version which is still available does not work as an internal upgrade for Series3 TiVo's. Western Digital is introducing a new DVR dedicated hard drive line called the WD AV-GP. AFAIK it's not available for sale just yet, but I'd expect it to be in the next few weeks if not sooner. It might be worth the wait.

    Hitachi makes the CinemaStar and others are using the Hitachi Deskstar hard drives (although the DeskStars are reportedly fairly noisy). Samsung also makes a good 1TB hard drive which works well. IIRC someone tried using a new Seagate 1TB drive and was not happy with it.

    If you're not up for that, you can buy a pre-formatted drive from Weaknees.com or DVR Upgrade. You'd still have to remove and replace the hard drive in your TiVo, but that's a little easier and quicker than doing it all yourself...although more expensive.

    Good luck and let us know how things go. :up:
     
  10. Feb 7, 2008 #850 of 10248
    logicman1

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    Been up and running for a couple of weeks now - easy set up, works great. No problems after a power failure either.
     
  11. Feb 7, 2008 #851 of 10248
    CTLesq

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    Thanks to everyone who responded, I will take all of this into consideration.
     
  12. Feb 7, 2008 #852 of 10248
    The Swami

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    How snug a fit should the SIIG CB-SA0111-S1 cable be? It seems there is some good play up and down in my Antec MX-1 enclosure with this cable. Then again, I did not buy this SIIG from one of the listed vendors in the FAQ, so perhaps that is not the specific cable I was really shipped?

    It took at least 5 reboots and moving the drive around considerably and replugging the cable over and over with a lot of jiggling it up and around to get it recognized by my S3 as an attached external storage device. I'm guessing that is not the norm for this cable here.

    So I'm wondering if I should go out and try to get a replacement from one of the linked places in the FAQ for the CB-SA0111-S1. (I also noted in #s10/11 it calls this cable the CB-SA03111-S1, I am assuming that this "3" model is an outdated cable no longer worthy of use?)...I am hooking up from my Series3 to the aforementioned Antec MX-1 enclosure containing a Hitachi 1TB CinemaStar. Wasn't expecting to see the cable so easily moveable up/down. Any ideas or comments appreciated. thanks!
     
  13. Feb 7, 2008 #853 of 10248
    logicman1

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    The cable you have (assuming you meant CB-SA0311-S1) has eSATA to SATA I connectors and is used for connecting a retail eSATA drive to the SATA port on your PC. This is probably the source of all the trouble you had. The CB-SA0111-S1 has eSATA connectors on each end and is what you need to connect an external drive enclosure to the S3. As far as snuggness goes, the connectors fit tightly but do not seem to lock in with a positive snap.
     
  14. Feb 7, 2008 #854 of 10248
    richsadams

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    As logicman1 mentions, good eSATA cables with proper connectors will be snug at both ends.
     
  15. Feb 7, 2008 #855 of 10248
    The Swami

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    i musta got hosed then. i did purchase (ostensibly) the SIIG CB-SA0111-S1 cable. the end in the Tivo is snug indeed. the end going into the Antec is not. or not nearly as fitting as the Tivo end is anyway. i'll see about getting another cable for comparison sakes just to see if it makes a difference or if i'm losing my mind.
     
  16. Feb 8, 2008 #856 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Before you order another cable, try connecting the eSATA cable that came with the MX-1. If it's also loose at the enclosure connection it may not be the cable...but the connector in the MX-1. IIRC there was one other post that said the connector on their MX-1 was faulty and they were able to get a replacement enclosure from Antec. Just a thought.

    I guess I'd also try using the Antec cable as well. Ours worked flawlessly but I bought our enclosure back in April or so...seems the eSATA cables they were shipping last summer were problematic and then by the fall it seemed to have cleared up.

    Let us know how it goes.
     
  17. Feb 8, 2008 #857 of 10248
    logicman1

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    I misunderstood and thought you bought a CB-SA0311-S1, but that would be impossible to connect. :eek: As Rich said, try the MX-1 cable. The only difference I could see between the SIIG and Antec cables was that the SIIG's connectors (the part that inserts into the socket) were a bit longer.
     
  18. Feb 9, 2008 #858 of 10248
    danitaz

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    I'm trying to fix a problem with my TiVO rebooting on HD channels, which seems to be hard drive related. I have both drives connected internally, not USB (we did try USB and indeed it seemed like it was going to take days, so after letting it run overnight I stopped it and put the drives internal). Up to almost 50%, the GUI DID update, and now it says I have 51 minutes left, and the bytes in/bytes out are not updating. Perplexing. Could it be that my Tivo HD is so bad that it can't continue the copy? I'm tempted to put the old drive back in the TiVO, T2GO any programs that I want to keep, and then just do a backup/restore without the programs to see how that goes.

    Any other suggestions? During the process I'm "upgrading" the drive to a 1TB drive, so I don't know if maybe there is just some kind of a "lag" while the TiVO "finishes" the process.

    Thanks.

    Danita
     
  19. Feb 9, 2008 #859 of 10248
    danitaz

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    Actually, that's what I did - so far so good with the HD recordings.

    Danita
     
  20. Feb 10, 2008 #860 of 10248
    lrhorer

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    We're devastated, but we'll cope somehow. ;)

    I think it probably has something to do with a great sense of relief to be assured he isn't one's father. :D
     

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