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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 31, 2008 #821 of 10306
    randyelder

    randyelder New Member

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    I get it finally. Because my information screens said series 3, I assumed that's what I had. Thanks for all your help guys.
     
  2. Jan 31, 2008 #822 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Hi Dan...glad to help.

    1. Yes, you can save your current recordings onto a new internal/upgraded drive. It takes some added effort and time is all. Follow the directions carefully and you shouldn't have any problems.

    2. Yes, if TiVo is aware that you've opened the box and changed anything, it would void the warranty. That said, it's a good idea to simply keep the OEM hard drive and if something goes wrong you can always pop it back in and ship it back...no one will be the wiser (as long as you don't forget a screwdriver in there or something ;)). Keeping the original drive as a backup is highly recommended anyway.

    3. Yes, but you'll have to pull it back out to marry the two drives together, again using WinMFS.

    4. If you follow the directions your cable card information will be copied over along with your Season Passes, etc. so no problem.
     
  3. Jan 31, 2008 #823 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum. :up:

    You could try sending the owner, Spike a P.M. (click here) to see if he can get it corrected. Or you could just try signing up under a different name/password and see if that works.
     
  4. Jan 31, 2008 #824 of 10306
    dpfels

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    Fantastic.

    Thanks again!
     
  5. Jan 31, 2008 #825 of 10306
    richsadams

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    No problem, it is a bit confusing. The TiVo HD is in fact in the Series3 family, it's just referred to as the TiVo HD or THD to differentiate it from the "original" TiVo Series3 or S3.

    Best of luck and let us know what you decide to do. Or enjoy that new PC expansion drive! ;)
     
  6. Feb 1, 2008 #826 of 10306
    richsadams

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    There was a post on this thread today that listed what AFAIK is a new drive from Western Digital specifically designed for DVR use, the WD AV-GP hard drive, model number WD10EVCS. It comes in 500GB, 750GB and 1TB's. It's part of their new "environmentally friendly" Green or GP line.

    As most of us remember, the earlier WD 1TB OEM version (Model #WD10EACS-00ZJB0) ended up being problematic as an internal upgrade on the Series3's (hangs on soft reboots). However the "retail" version (Model # WD10EACS-32ZJB0 ) worked fine but now appears to be out of production. (I've had one of the "retail" models in our Series3 for a while now with no problems).

    Since this is a new drive model and is aimed at DVR use (speaking directly to HD recording capacity, etc.) I think we'd all be very interested in knowing if it will in fact work as not only an internal drive upgrade for the Series3 but for the TiVo HD as well as an expansion drive for both TiVo's.

    Newegg.com isn't selling it yet, but the OP had this link to others that are:

    http://www.google.com/products?q=WD10EVCS&btnG=Search+Products

    At the moment it is selling for about the same price as the "original" 1TB drive, but it should come down as time goes on.

    Any volunteers/pioneers out there?? :)
     
  7. Feb 1, 2008 #827 of 10306
    jlib

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    And you will notice the others aren't either. OEM drives take a more convoluted route to the market so it may be very spotty for some time. Anyway, not worth bothering with if there is any price premium.
     
  8. Feb 1, 2008 #828 of 10306
    hlazare

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    To: Richsadams
    Re.: WINFMSLive.org site
    I've tried different e-mails etc. with the same results. I've taken your advice and sent a message to spike a. P. M. using your link.
    Thanks for your help.
    Howard
     
  9. Feb 1, 2008 #829 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Agreed. I think the only advantage to the new one would be if it works as an internal upgrade with Series3's.
     
  10. Feb 1, 2008 #830 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Spike's usually very responsive particularly in light of the fact that he's done all of this work for free. I've encouraged him to put a PayPal link on his site. I'd be willing to donate to the cause...it's got to be very time consuming and I know there are many, many other people here that appreciate his efforts.
     
  11. Feb 1, 2008 #831 of 10306
    hlazare

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    The site is now working! Thanks to both Rich and Spike.
    Best to you.
    Howard
     
  12. Feb 1, 2008 #832 of 10306
    d j h

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    I have a Series3 HD that will not recognize the WD 500gb external storage. I've tried 3 units (one at a time). (2 drives are for my son's units and one is for me.)
    2 of the drives are not recognized at all. One is seen by the Series3, but keeps asking to be installed.
    Each time (multiple times for each drive) I power off the Series3, power off the WD500, power on the WD500, then power on the Series3.
    I've gone through multiple restarts and Guided Setups with each drive. No success.
    Help!
     
  13. Feb 1, 2008 #833 of 10306
    ThAbtO

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    Did you wait 15-30 seconds before starting the Tivo S3?
     
  14. Feb 1, 2008 #834 of 10306
    moxie1617

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    If the WD 500GB external storage you are using isn't a WD My DVR Expander, it will not work with a Tivo HD. See the 1st post of this thread, Item I.1 of the FAQ.
     
  15. Feb 2, 2008 #835 of 10306
    d j h

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    TiVo Series3 HD
    Thanks for responding.
    Yes, each of the 3 are Western Digital My DVD Expanders. They were purchased from TiVo (online store) just before Christmas.
    My Series3 was purchased from WeaKnees.com 10/13/06 "s3-tivo-750gb - TiVo Series 3 HD TiVo with 750GB drive".
     
  16. Feb 2, 2008 #836 of 10306
    d j h

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    Many thanks for responding.
    Not sure. Wasn't conscious of the wait time.
    I'll try each again, being sure to wait at least a minute after powering down both the drive and the TiVo.
     
  17. Feb 2, 2008 #837 of 10306
    richsadams

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    You have what is considered a "previously upgraded internal hard drive". Unfortunately the plug and play option for an eSATA expansion drive doesn't work with upgraded internal hard drives.

    Section III. Non Verified Drives, #10 in the first post of this thread discusses the options for adding/marrying an eSATA drive to a previously upgraded Series3. It involves removing the drive, connecting it to your PC and running one of the programs available from http://www.mfslive.org. It's not to difficult, but does require a bit of work on your part.
     
  18. Feb 2, 2008 #838 of 10306
    bkdtv

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    As indicated above, if you upgraded your TiVo or purchased a pre-upgraded TiVo, then the "plug and play" eSATA expansion is no longer functional. You can still add a drive, but it must be done using the instructions in Part III, FAQ #10.

    A wait time is unnecessary. But the cable must be inserted firmly on both the TiVo and the drive, or it will not work.
     
  19. Feb 3, 2008 #839 of 10306
    d j h

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    Many, many thanks for the info on how to marry my non verified drive (previously upgraded to 750gb) to a WD 500gb external.
     
  20. Feb 4, 2008 #840 of 10306
    CharlesH

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    I think that is is worth noting that while upgrading the hard drive will void the warranty and support, TiVo doesn't consider such activity to be an offense where they would cancel your service or such. It's pretty much "OK, but now you are on your own if your TiVo breaks".
     

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