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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Oct 3, 2011 #8161 of 10248
    ccrider2

    ccrider2 New Member

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    Look like my only option, but if TiVo doesn't support port speed autonegotiation....then it might be a waste of time. I contacted Seagate Tech Support via Facebook and found this info: :(
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    Can a ST31000524AS be jumpered to run at 3Gb/s instead of 6Gb/s? Can't find any info about the jumper block in the manual. Thanks Much!

    Seagate Support No, there is not a jumper setting to change the max transfer speed to 3Gb/s. This drive will auto-negotiate with the SATA controller to determine the max speed that both devices can communicate at however.

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  2. Oct 3, 2011 #8162 of 10248
    vectorcatch

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    There is no reason the TiVo shouldn't support auto negotiation of the link. During the transition from Sata I to Sata II many VIA chipsets did not support auto negotiation. This is why hard drive manufacturers added the jumper. All current day chipsets and even most non-VIA chipsets of the time supported auto negotiation. The drive should just auto negotiate to the greatest common denominator for speed (works just like Ethernet).

    I would just try it, but I suspect you will be fine.
     
  3. Oct 4, 2011 #8163 of 10248
    ccrider2

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    :up:

    Thanks for your vote of confidence. When I get the time to try this I'll post my results....As it looks, barring a failure of my current drive, might not be till the reruns start next Spring.
     
  4. Oct 4, 2011 #8164 of 10248
    Teggy

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    Apologies if this was answered somewhere, but I couldn't find anything definitive. Given that the WD DVR expanders are out of stock nearly everywhere (even on the WE site), has there been any indication that a 2TB expander will be coming out or even if the product is being discontinued?
     
  5. Oct 4, 2011 #8165 of 10248
    mitchr

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    Did you have any softboot problems with the green drives and need to modify Intellipark (I think its called that).
    I also see W10EURS on Newegg.
    Do I understand that the drive should be no greater than 3Gb/s ?
     
  6. Oct 6, 2011 #8166 of 10248
    Soapm

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    So close,...
    I thought I would report I was able to copy and expand my factory TivoHD drive to 2TB using only Winmfs. I think the trick was shutting down and removing the factory drive after copy. I then booted back up and expanded the 2TB in winmfs. I got an error saying I was creating a partition larger than 1TB and I picked yes and presto. I had a 2TB TivoHD drive. Supersized...

    EDIT... Read to post 8201
     
  7. Oct 11, 2011 #8167 of 10248
    RickL66

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    Is that with Winmfs 9.3? I found the download on another forum and it was last updated in 2008. Anything newer?
     
  8. Oct 11, 2011 #8168 of 10248
    brentil

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    The new Premiere Elite uses the WD WD20EURS drive.

    1. AV-GP drive
    2. SATA III
    3. 64 MB buffer
    4. 2 TB
    5. 24 db @ idle
    6. 25 db @ seek
    7. SilkStream™ technology to capture data from up to 12 simultaneous HD video streams
    8. 5400 RPM
    9. Advanced Format*

    *Of note as the partitions are built by TiVo on the drive by them they have the ability to align them to the 4K which we as users replacing drives can not do. Aligning the partition tables remove the majority of the performance penalties that an unaligned drive suffers. If you're putting it in a S3 as discussed before you shouldn't have issues and until it's been tested who knows if a S4 non-Elite would have issues or not once streaming is enabled.
     
  9. Oct 11, 2011 #8169 of 10248
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    And by active format, do you mean "advanced format"?

    Or has WD come up with another way to confuse the issue?



    It's interesting how the industry is not making a big deal out of the switch to 4K sectors, (NOW WITH ADVANCED FORMAT!!!) but instead seeming to do their best to bury it in the fine print whether a drive is 512 or 4K. I'm always having to load the pictures on New Egg and hit the magnify tool to get a look at the drive label itself.
     
  10. Oct 11, 2011 #8170 of 10248
    brentil

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    Typo on my part, Advanced format is what it should read, updating now, thanks!
     
  11. Oct 12, 2011 #8171 of 10248
    Soapm

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    So close,...
    winmfs_beta9_3f.zip
     
  12. Oct 12, 2011 #8172 of 10248
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    This

    http://mfslive.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=976

    is as straight from the horse's mouth as you're going to get.
     
  13. Oct 12, 2011 #8173 of 10248
    bishoptf

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    Looking at this drive for a s3 - TCD652160, looking at this drive, since I can source from my local micro center, any other suggestions...besides this one?

    ST320005N4A1AS-RK


    only looking at the 1TB range...
     
  14. Oct 12, 2011 #8174 of 10248
    unitron

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    Are you looking for a 1TB drive or a 2TB drive?

    Because that's a 2TB drive.

    I haven't been able to find out what the model number of the actual drive inside that box is. The RK stands for "retail kit".
     
  15. Oct 12, 2011 #8175 of 10248
    TheLongshot

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    Here we go again.

    Before, I installed a 1TB EARS drive in my Tivo, it worked for a few months, then started rebooting on me randomly. So, I sent it off for a warranty replacement.

    Well, the same thing is happening again with the replacement. After working fine for a few months, I came home to a gray screen. Rebooted and watched some stuff on my Tivo, then it rebooted while I was watching it.

    So, now what?
     
  16. Oct 12, 2011 #8176 of 10248
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    What model TiVo?

    If it rebooted while you were watching, I'd be suspicious of the power supply.

    Inspect it carefully for "capacitor disease".
     
  17. Oct 12, 2011 #8177 of 10248
    TheLongshot

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    TivoHD

    Problem is, it worked just fine when I put the original drive back in before. In any case, it was recently (as in just over a year ago) replaced by Tivo.
     
  18. Oct 12, 2011 #8178 of 10248
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    The original drive was replaced by TiVo, the power supply was replaced by TiVo, or the TiVo was replaced by TiVo?
     
  19. Oct 12, 2011 #8179 of 10248
    TheLongshot

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    The whole Tivo. I had issues with my previous Tivo. Replaced the hard drive and the power supply. Neither solved the problem so I had to call Tivo and buy a refurb as a replacement.
     
  20. Oct 12, 2011 #8180 of 10248
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Did you send the Western Digital drive off for warranty replacement, or the TiVo, or both?

    Because your first post made it sound like it was the WD drive that you replaced and that you were now having trouble with the replacement WD drive.
     

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