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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Aug 18, 2011 #7941 of 10248
    dbenrosen

    dbenrosen New Member

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    I tried a number of different locations on the Windows drive to put the backup file and all exhibited the same behavior. I realize they could all be referencing the same physical spot on the disk, but I doubt it since the file gets created initially with a size of 0. I tried at least a half dozen times and each time an empty (initialized) file was created but nothing was written to it.
     
  2. Aug 18, 2011 #7942 of 10248
    lpwcomp

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    I can relate. As of next Monday, I will be eligible for a Senior discount at AMC.:)
     
  3. Aug 18, 2011 #7943 of 10248
    dbenrosen

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    A little more information:

    During the Mfscopy, it seems to have gotten stuck during partition 9. That is the latest information displayed on the Winmfs dialog.
     
  4. Aug 18, 2011 #7944 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I'm starting to lean toward data corruption. I can't recall, did you happen to run Kickstart 57 and/or 58 when the original drive was in TiVo?

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showpost.php?p=5643823&postcount=2

    If not, there's a chance that might resolve things.

    If that didn't or doesn't work, I don't think it will have an impact, but give these two winMFS options/fixes a try...

    1. Fix Swap
    2. Fix Bootpage

    Details here:

    http://www.mfslive.org/winmfs/index.html

    That said you may end up having to use Instant Cake as a clean image to upgrade. It's not the ideal because you'll essentially have a brand new TiVo, but at least you'll have a "last resort" to turn to.
     
  5. Aug 18, 2011 #7945 of 10248
    dbenrosen

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    I will put the drive back in the TiVo and attempt this. It is worth a shot.

    I'm prepared to go the InstantCake route if need be. Luckily I won't have lost too many recordings because it is the summer.
     
  6. Aug 18, 2011 #7946 of 10248
    lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Unless you already have InstantCake for that model, I would suggest posting to this thread first.
     
  7. Aug 18, 2011 #7947 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Okay. I'm on the road today so won't be watching too closely until later. Best of luck!
     
  8. Aug 18, 2011 #7948 of 10248
    dbenrosen

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    Thanks for the link.
     
  9. Aug 18, 2011 #7949 of 10248
    dbenrosen

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    Started dd_rescue before I left for the airport, and it was running nice and neat. But it has now encountered a bad batch of blocks. That confirms the problem with the original (source) drive. I'll see what it looks like when it finishes. At this rate it will probably be a while.
     
  10. Aug 19, 2011 #7950 of 10248
    dbenrosen

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    dd_rescue finally finished after 24 hours. It told me there were many errors. I expanded the size on the drive (figured it was worth a shot since I had it connected) and that seemed to work using mfsadd.

    I then placed the TiVo in my S3 and powered up. Got to the "Almost there..." screen, the GSOD. I'm hoping this will actually be a good thing and fix the TiVo. I'll probably be able to tell in the morning, since 3 hours will be around 1:30am.
     
  11. Aug 20, 2011 #7951 of 10248
    dbenrosen

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    It restarted after the GSOD, but kept rebooting. I finally decided to ditch it and did a restore from a "virgin" S3 image I was able to download. Everything came back up (after a C&DE), but when I install the cablecards, I don't get them. The TiVo knows they are there as I see them listed as being inserted, but when I go to the configuration screen, it says Cablecard 1 is not in normal operation.

    Any thoughts? I am speaking with Verizon now as I type this. I am trying to use my known working Cablecard from my other TiVo in it now, but I am getting the same message.
     
  12. Aug 20, 2011 #7952 of 10248
    L David Matheny

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    I don't do cable, but I believe a C&DE erases any cable card pairing you had. So if Verizon had to pair them to your TiVo originally, that will have to be done again. Right? I'm assuming that they won't work until they're paired.
     
  13. Aug 20, 2011 #7953 of 10248
    dbenrosen

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    Verizon doesn't (or at least didn't) pair cards to specific devices (like a TiVo). The problem is occurring before that point. In order to pair it to the device, I would need to get information off of the Cablecard info screen, which I cannot get to. That screen contains hostid, etc., that Verizon would need.

    I did some more searching, and it appears the problem may be because the software version is so very old (original 8.x). So I am in the hoping that getting a newer version will fix the problem as documented in this post . I'll let you know if that works.
     
  14. Aug 20, 2011 #7954 of 10248
    dwit

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    Only thing I can think of is maybe there is an issue with the Tivo software version. Check the version in the system info. Then force a couple of connections to Tivo and see if it updates. Maybe that will help.

    edit: Beat me to it.
     
  15. Aug 20, 2011 #7955 of 10248
    dbenrosen

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    The software update fixed the cablecard issue and my TiVo is now up and running, sans Season Passes. I will have to reenter them as I don't think I backed them up on TiVo.com. But my TiVo is working, and that is the most important thing. Thanks for the help.
     
  16. Aug 21, 2011 #7956 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Nice. :up: Glad things worked out and enjoy!
     
  17. Aug 21, 2011 #7957 of 10248
    losaltos

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    I just did an upgrade to a 2TB disk for my Series 3 DVR. I used MFSlive and was able to ignore the 1TB limit restriction and added a new 1600gb media partition which is working fine. I didn't see any info that this was possible apart from a discussion about how one could use JMFS from Premiere to do such an upgrade. However, that appeared to involve adding a 4th media/app partition pair.

    I have recorded 1500gb of programs to test this and the DVR works fine. I did use the -r 4 option to double the default blocking factor so I guess that might have helped.
     
  18. Aug 23, 2011 #7958 of 10248
    dwit

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    What is the model number of your Tivo?
     
  19. Aug 23, 2011 #7959 of 10248
    losaltos

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    The Tivo Series 3 that I upgraded with a 1600gb media partition is TCD648250 which is the original series3. This was also the original 250gb disk so I have two other approximately 100gb media partitions with 3 total sets using all the space on the 2Tb drive.
     
  20. Aug 25, 2011 #7960 of 10248
    A J Ricaud

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    Please excuse this post being a little off-topic. I just bought 2 WDEARS drives from Newegg for a NAS box. I know that these are are pretty popular drives for Tivo upgrades--I have the 1TB models in my Tivos.

    The reviews at Newegg for the 2TB drives are pretty poor--3 out of 5 checks-- citing high DOA/infant mortality rates. It seem like most of the problems are fairly recent, August, 2011.

    I'm wondering if any Tivo users are experiencing these kinds of early failures, especially since the drives are running constantly? Or, did Newegg just get a bad batch?
     

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