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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. May 12, 2011 #7561 of 10284
    Kit_C

    Kit_C New Member

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    My OLED S3 hung at the welcome screen this week, and it turned out that my 4 year old Hitachi 1TB drive had died. Fortunately, I had the original 320GB drive, and was able to re-install this, update the software to the latest version, and get back online quickly.

    After reading the FAQ, I purchased a WD15EVDS from my local Fry's ($72 for the bare drive). It has a manufacture date of Sept 27 2010, so I'm planning to turn off Intellipark using Wdidle3 prior to cloning my existing drive with WinMFS.

    Here's my question: The link in the upgrade thread for Wdidle3 appears to be broken. I found Wdidle3 on a WD download page, but it has the following warning:
    Am I OK using this version of Wdidle on my new EVDS, or is there something special about the version that is linked in the upgrade thread?

    Thanks,


    Kit
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  2. May 12, 2011 #7562 of 10284
    leiff

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    Here is excerpt from FAQ:

    This issue affects all recently manufactured Western Digital EADS, EARS, and EAVS drives. It also affects EVVS drives manufactured after September 18 and EVDS drives manufactured since November. Drives built prior to these dates work perfectly fine; they do not exhibit the issue. The manufacture date is printed on the top of every drive.[/B]

    It says for EVDS drives only after Nov need to be adjusted so I don't think you have to do this
     
  3. May 12, 2011 #7563 of 10284
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    The FAQ is referring to 2009 dates. All WD GP drives manufactured after September 15, 2010 no longer require the Intellipark setting to be adjusted.

    I know the FAQ needs updating so misunderstanding this is understandable, but PLEASE be careful when posting information which may not be current/accurate. I will reach out to bkdtv to update the FAQ again.
     
  4. May 12, 2011 #7564 of 10284
    richsadams

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    Per the note above you should not have to adjust the Intellipark setting on your new drive.
     
  5. May 12, 2011 #7565 of 10284
    crrazychicken

    crrazychicken New Member

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    I followed the upgrade steps using WinMFS and WD20EARS for my TivoHD and expanded to use all of the available space on the 2TB drive


    The info on the TIVO now reads 318 HD hours and 2777 SD hours. From reading the threads it shouldn't work, will it just conch out once it hits the 1.2TB mark?
     
  6. May 12, 2011 #7566 of 10284
    Kit_C

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    Thanks all. I'll give it a shot.
     
  7. May 12, 2011 #7567 of 10284
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum. IIRC someone else tried it and it did end up flaking out...not just hitting the recording hours limit but becoming very buggy and ultimately stopped working completely. That was when 2TB drives were first introduced though...so I've no idea what might happen with newer TiVo OS versions, and current drive firmware, etc.

    It will be remarkable and welcome if things do go well however! Although you can do the same thing with jmfs that program doesn't have the ability to create a truncated backup like winMFS and that would be very valuable.

    So if things do go south...as long as you have your original TiVo hard drive...you can follow the directions for upgrading your TiVo HD to 2TB with jmfs and you should be good to go:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=462179

    Please let us know how things go with this effort though!
     
  8. May 13, 2011 #7568 of 10284
    JoeTaxpayer

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    Wow, I just got my new 1.5TB WD green and was about to ask this. In car now, will check date when I get back. This is good news.
    Ordered the drive from NewEgg, $65 free shipping. Ordered late wed nite, got it today.

    Edit - 25 Jan 2011 - nice!

    Done - 5 minutes from upwrapping drive to unplugging from the PC. It was, well, a piece of cake. I respect others' opinions and feelings. Find it strange that an electrician can charge what they will, but someone selling useful software for a price will get criticized. I paid $20 for my first two ICs, and when the price went up, I didn't blink. Because for me the software has value. Just saying.
     
  9. May 14, 2011 #7569 of 10284
    bgc

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    On an S2DT with a 1TB WD drive, is there any reason to make the swap space larger than the default of 128MB?

    Thanks,
    BGC
     
  10. May 14, 2011 #7570 of 10284
    mgar

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    I just ordered a WD10EARS from Tiger Direct and it should be here next week. It will be installed in my Tivo HD. I don't plant to mess with any drive settings. I am just going to run winMFS. I assume this should work since the soft boot/ Intellipark problems have been resolved.

    If I run into any problems with the install I will report them.

    Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.
     
  11. May 14, 2011 #7571 of 10284
    richsadams

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    TIA for the feedback and happy upgrading!
     
  12. May 14, 2011 #7572 of 10284
    unitron

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    If there is and you don't, you'll probably find out the hard way, so go ahead and splurge and make it 500MB.

    Look at it this way, the rule of thumb of 1MB for every 2GB means restore -s 500 will only use up 0.05% of the drive. That's one-twentieth of one per cent.

    500MB is about 15 minutes of video at Best Quality on an S2 DT. You can spare it.
     
  13. May 15, 2011 #7573 of 10284
    Neenahboy

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    Just wanted to report back that I did the jmfs upgrade with a WD10EVDS Friday night and it appears to have worked flawlessly. Ahhhhh, the ability to store 288 hours of HD goodness is refreshing. Thanks again for the help. :)
     
  14. May 15, 2011 #7574 of 10284
    richsadams

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    Sahweet! Enjoy!
     
  15. May 15, 2011 #7575 of 10284
    bakem84

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    Just wanted to share my update story.

    Bought a WD10EURS from Amazon with a 2011 manufacture date (can't remember exactly which month, and I don't feel like opening the Tivo back up at the moment), and ran the setup today. Wouldn't get past the powering up screen. I tried reseating the connector with no luck, and actually reinstalled the original drive, which started up fine. Found a buddy that would let me use a SATA port on his computer, and ran the idle update. Everything boots up fine now with the new drive. :up:

    Not sure if they're back to the old setting or not, but mine definitely needed the update.
     
  16. May 15, 2011 #7576 of 10284
    richsadams

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    Thanks for that. Did you try booting up more than twice? There have been numerous reports over the years about having to initially boot several times before TiVo would start.

    If you can provide the manufacture date at some point it would be appreciated. AFAIK yours would be the first drive with a 2011 date that needed adjusting.

    Glad things are working though and TIA.
     
  17. May 16, 2011 #7577 of 10284
    JoeTaxpayer

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    The 1.5TB WD15EARS failed to get past power up. 25jan2011 date code.

    I had a 1TB seagate in the closet and I'm running now, but curious about the WD. It ran IC fine. Wondering if the size made a difference or if I should have still run the "don't park heads" fix.

    I'm inclined to leave well enough alone. I don't 'need' more space and can use the 1.5TB drive elsewhere. A few minutes to bake, and about 5 min to swap out drives, but the initial boot/pull down channel, etc is enough to not really want to tinker further.

    This was in the Series 3 OLED/THX model. FYI.
     
  18. May 16, 2011 #7578 of 10284
    Stuxnet

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    You can run the intellipark fix (WDIDLE3.EXE) without having to reimage the drive.
     
  19. May 16, 2011 #7579 of 10284
    JoeTaxpayer

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    The drive was brand new. I had to image it with IC. New date code so I shouldn't need the intellipark fix at all.
     
  20. May 16, 2011 #7580 of 10284
    Stuxnet

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    Well... you would hope so... but if you page up to post #7575, there's some uncertainity blowing in the wind... and it's a low risk adjustment... could be something else... bad drive, defective image... just FYI.
     

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