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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Oct 2, 2010 #6641 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Best of luck, let us know how it goes…particularly if you needed to run wdidle!
     
  2. Oct 3, 2010 #6642 of 10248
    ehardman

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    I must be doing something wrong. I successfully backed up my Tivo drive using a Vantec USB to SATA converter on my laptop running Windows 7. After connecting the new WD10EARS, WINMFS does not see the drive, nor can I see it in My Computer. I checked the "show mounted drive box" and still nothing shows up. The drive is running and the green USB icon appears showing the adapter. I looked in device manger and the drive shows up under Disk Drives. I ran WINMFS as administrator. I have also shut down and rebooted with the new drive connected.

    Any ideas?
     
  3. Oct 3, 2010 #6643 of 10248
    Heinrich

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    Is the drive showing up in BIOS? It should be if it's connected right (it won't show up in My Computer since it's not formatted for Windows)
     
  4. Oct 3, 2010 #6644 of 10248
    ehardman

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    I can see it in Device Manager and also in Disk Management. Do I need to partition the disk first or does WinMFS take of that?
     
  5. Oct 3, 2010 #6645 of 10248
    richsadams

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    As mentioned, you still need to check your BIOS to see if the drive shows up there and the boot order. I know others have had issues trying to use laptops to perform an upgrade, but I don't recall exactly what the issues were. IIRC quite a few of them ended up using a begged, borrowed or…well someone else's PC. You might do a search of this thread (probably "laptop" will do) and see what you can find. Perhaps someone that's used a laptop to perform an upgrade will chime in.

    Yes, winMFS takes care of everything so you do not need to partition the new disk.
     
  6. Oct 3, 2010 #6646 of 10248
    ehardman

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    I gave up on the laptop and took the drive to my office where I could use the internal SATA connections on my PC. I was able to select the new drive and restored the backup from my Tivo drive.

    However, upon installing the new drive, my Tivo got stuck on the "Powering Up" screen. So had to re-install the old drive.

    Any ideas on why the new drive would not boot?
     
  7. Oct 3, 2010 #6647 of 10248
    richsadams

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    If it's hanging at the "Welcome! Powering up…" screen it means that the motherboard cannot communicate with the hard drive. Don't be offended, but make sure tha you actually reconnected the cables to the drive…hey, it's happened (to me :eek:).

    If everything is connected properly (and you can hear the drive spin up when you plug TiVo in) there's a very good chance you'll need to disable or extend the timeout for the Intellipark "feature" of your Western Digital hard drive. See Section IV, #29 for instructions on downloading wdidle3.exe and running it. It's relatively simple to do but unfortunately this will probably call for a trip back to the office because this is one thing that doesn't work via USB and requires a direct SATA connection.

    Some drives (depending on the manufacture date) don't need anything done, others boot up but won't reboot from a menu restart (soft reboot) and yet others won't even boot up without adjusting Intellipark. It's a bit of a mess still.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2010 #6648 of 10248
    ehardman

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    Question: I ran wdidle with my new WD10EARS temporarily installed in my PC this morning. However, I did not unplug my existing WD windows boot hard drive and wdidle updated both disks with the S300 command. Is this a problem? Should I change it back? If so, how?

    I will test the WD10EARS later today and post the results.

    Thanks!
     
  9. Oct 4, 2010 #6649 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Ha! Rookie move. Kidding. :) If you want the drive in your PC to take advantage of the Intellipark power saving feature you could change it back. Otherwise it shouldn't affect anything else one way or the other.
     
  10. Oct 4, 2010 #6650 of 10248
    ehardman

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    Rich, thank you for all your help. If I want to change it back, how do I do that? I don't know what commands are available for wdidle other than the S300.
     
  11. Oct 4, 2010 #6651 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Easy peasy (I really hate that saying , but it seems to fit). The timer is originally set to 8 seconds so you just need to re-run wdidle3 and enter /S8. That will change it from 300 seconds (/S300) back to 8 seconds. Just for grins I tried it and can confirm it works. :)
     
  12. Oct 4, 2010 #6652 of 10248
    ehardman

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    I am pleased to report that wdidle solved the problem and my WD10EARS is now up and running. Goodbye to my failing 500gb My DVR Expander. Hello to 143 hours of internal HD video.

    BTW, I first tried replacing the My DVR Expander eSata enclosure with a new Antec MX1. Didn't help so I guess the hard drive in the My DVR Expander was the culprit.

    Rich, thank you again for your expert help.
     
  13. Oct 4, 2010 #6653 of 10248
    Heinrich

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    I was getting frustrated making a WDIDLE3 CD and I only had a few hours, so I left my dad with a WDEARS w/o WDIDLE3. I'll fix it in two weeks. Considering the issue only happens with a soft reboot, which really doesn't happen much , I hope he'll be ok.
     
  14. Oct 4, 2010 #6654 of 10248
    ThAbtO

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    I recently had My Expander quit on me from about 3 yrs of service. So I now I have a 1tb 10EVDS with 157 hrs after about 2 hrs of work. Did you activate supersize in WinMFS?
     
  15. Oct 4, 2010 #6655 of 10248
    ehardman

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    No. Did I leave 14 hours on the table?
     
  16. Oct 4, 2010 #6656 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

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    Yes.

    The good news is you can always supersize it at any time. Should be 157 hours as stated.

    Robb
     
  17. Oct 4, 2010 #6657 of 10248
    ThreeSoFar

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    FYI, I just used an old DOS boot floppy and ran wdidle3 that way.
     
  18. Oct 4, 2010 #6658 of 10248
    richsadams

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    And then he went back to listening to his favorite Creedence Clearwater 8 track tape. Ha! I kill me. :D
     
  19. Oct 4, 2010 #6659 of 10248
    ThAbtO

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    16gb mp3 player :D Its a Sony! :D:D:D
     
  20. Oct 5, 2010 #6660 of 10248
    maxweltd

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    Oh happy days! Let me tell you my story (and big thanks to this board!): My Series 3 Tivo Hard Drive died. I bought a WD10EVDS at Fry's last night (10/04/2010). I used Instantcake to load new Series 3 image to my new drive. I reattached to my Tivo, booted, and the Tivo was stuck on "Welcome, powering up". I read this thread to look for other problems. I skipped by wdidle3 because it mentioned the issue was resolved in newer WD drives. Then I read your post, and gave wdidle3 a try. Reimaged drive with series 3 software from instantcake, rebooted Tivo, and it works!

    THANKS TIVO COMMUNITY!!!

    SO if any of you have the same issue, it is confirmed you need to use wdidle3 on your drive prior to loading the Series 3 image.

    From poster Drey:- 12-08-2009, 10:03 PM
    It is indeed wdidle3.exe that disables IntelliPark. Once disabled, I can successfully reboot both HD and S3.

    The only issue with wdidle3.exe is that it needs to run from DOS. Essentially, the steps are:

    - Create bootable CD-ROM (or floppy drive, if you have it) with wdidle3.exe on it

    - Connect "bad" WD drive to SATA. Ensure it is not in RAID or AHCI, but rather in EIDE Compatible mode. This is needed so older DOS can detect the drive.

    - Boot from from above CD/floppy and run "wdidle3 /D" to disable IntelliPark. The message should say that it has been disabled.

    - Remove the drive, load TiVo image and test. You should no longer have "soft-boot" problem.

    Below is the link to bootable CD that I created with wdidle3.exe on it. When at DOS prompt, change to drive letter R: and access wdidle3.exe from there.

    (I can't post link, new user, see his post for link)
     

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