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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Sep 18, 2010 #6541 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

    Robbdoe1 Tivo Obsessed

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    I just upgraded my THD to a WD10EVDS from Newegg dated 8/16/10. No soft reboot problems and 157 glorious HD hours. :)

    Thanks for all the help and recommendations.:up:

    Robb
     
  2. Sep 18, 2010 #6542 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sahweet! :up:
     
  3. Sep 18, 2010 #6543 of 10248
    blacknoi

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    I just upgraded my Tivo Series 3, purchased in September 2006. I had the stock hard drive in it and only upgraded for more space. The original drive was performing fine.


    I bought a Western Digital 1 TB AV-GP SATA OEM AV Hard Drive WD10EVDS

    from Amazon for $77.99.

    [​IMG]

    I used WinMFS and did a full copy over using 2 external USB enclosures. It took about 7 hours.

    When it was done, I put the drive into the Tivo to test it out. I let it sit for over 10 minutes and it never got past "Powering Up, Please Wait." So I searched out wdidle.exe and found the bootdisc iso. I hooked up the drive to my desktop computer and booted with the boot disc. I ran wdidle3 /S300 and got the confirmation.

    I then put it back into my Series 3, and it booted. I did a soft boot test as well with the 3 thumbs down + enter and it rebooted successfully.

    The drive was manufactured July 2010.
     
  4. Sep 18, 2010 #6544 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

    Robbdoe1 Tivo Obsessed

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    So it looks like August may be the key date for this drive. We had 1 successful August and 1 unsuccessful July (yours)in the last 2 days as reported here. Still waiting to here from CaseyK24 on his results. Still iffy at best. Good looking out getting it going with wdidle.

    Robb
     
  5. Sep 18, 2010 #6545 of 10248
    mkkelly75

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    I believe both of mine (1 in Premiere, 1 in TiVo HD) were Sep 9 2009 Manf dates. I had a Seagate 1TB in the TiVo HD before, amazing how much quieter the WD's are.
     
  6. Sep 18, 2010 #6546 of 10248
    mkkelly75

    mkkelly75 New Member

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    Whoops, you are right, the drive I used in my Premiere did have a Sept 20 2009 manufacture date. The one I used today for the TiVo HD was Sept 9 2009.
     
  7. Sep 18, 2010 #6547 of 10248
    cr33p

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    289 at the moment, until we figure out how to super size to 319 like DVR dudes drives are
     
  8. Sep 19, 2010 #6548 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Thanks for that and enjoy! :up:
     
  9. Sep 19, 2010 #6549 of 10248
    silypuddy

    silypuddy New Member

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    Need some help here...

    I'm trying to upgrade by THD stock drive to a 1TB Hitachi. (I got one of the recommended list). I pulled the THD drive, fired up my Win7 box and WinMFS doesn't see my THD drive. I tried a reboot and as far as I know, the drive is up and running (I can feel it running).

    I put the THD drive back into the TiVo and it's still good so I didn't mess it up (phew). Any suggestions? Does WinMFS work on a Win7 64 bit box?

    Thanks in advance...
     
  10. Sep 19, 2010 #6550 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

    Robbdoe1 Tivo Obsessed

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    WinMFS is reported to work on the following Windows Versions:
    Win XP Sp2 and Sp3, Win XP 64 Sp2, Win2003 Sp1, Win2003 64 Sp1, Vista, Vista 64

    I don't know why it would not work on Windows7, But the above is from the Winmfs site.

    Maybe someone who had successs using 7 can confirm it works or does not?

    Restart Winmfs by right clicking and running as admin. There is also a check box to show mounted drives, try that.

    Robb
     
  11. Sep 19, 2010 #6551 of 10248
    dswallow

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    It works fine on Windows 7 x64; I've used it there. Just remember to run it as administrator, otherwise you won't see your drives.
     
  12. Sep 19, 2010 #6552 of 10248
    silypuddy

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    Yup.. that did the trick.. I had forgotten that Win7 still had that damn Admin "feature". I thought being logged in as Admin was good enough..

    Copying is happening as we speak...

    BTW, I didn't have to do any sound attenuation for the Hitachi drive I picked up of Amazon, or at least I wasn't given the option by the tool...
     
  13. Sep 19, 2010 #6553 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Adjusting the AAM is a completely separate process, nothing to do with winMFS. Read the FAQ for the instructions (Section IV, #32).

    Happy upgrading!
     
  14. Sep 19, 2010 #6554 of 10248
    silypuddy

    silypuddy New Member

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    Yet another newbie question...

    I started the copy about two hours ago and it's still running. The faq says it should take about 90 minutes to copy the settings and shows which is what I am trying to do. Should I wait, or cancel the operation and try again? I'm guessing that the drive is about 40% full.

    The progress bar is stuck at five and it's not showing any errors.

    Thanks in advance...
     
  15. Sep 19, 2010 #6555 of 10248
    richsadams

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    If it's a simple truncated backup of the settings (guide data, season passes, cable card, etc.), that only takes a few minutes. It sounds like you're doing a full copy and restore (settings, recordings, etc.). The time it takes to do that is in direct proportion to the data on the original drive. It can take more than three hours if the drive is nearly full...probably less if not. The other deciding factor is the connection. A direct SATA connection will be much faster than using a USB/SATA adapter. The speed of your PC as well as having other programs running at the same time can have an impact too.

    The "progress bar" doesn't work well. Things can be going fine and the program will appear to be stuck. The best thing to do is open task manager...right click on the task bar at the bottom of the screen (or better yet download and use Process Explorer)...and view the winMFS line. You'll probably see activity. If not you'd need to start from scratch, but it's almost certainly still running.

    Another hint is to move the program's windows around each time one comes up to see if there's anything behind them. In particular the authorization screen for "Supersize" can appear behind one of the regular winMFS windows on occasion.

    Have some patience and once you're done you'll be a pro! :up:
     
  16. Sep 19, 2010 #6556 of 10248
    silypuddy

    silypuddy New Member

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    Yup, I downloaded the tool and ran it. The AAM option was not enabled on this drive:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002D5XY8A/ref=oss_product

    Do I have the wrong drive? Does it matter?
     
  17. Sep 19, 2010 #6557 of 10248
    silypuddy

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    Yea, I am at 2 1/2 hours right now and the process monitor is showing no activity for winMFS. I'll give it another 20 minutes and if nothing happens, just do a restore of the backup onto the new drive. I don't have to save the shows, just thought it would be nice.

    As for speed of the PC, I've plugged in directly to the internal sata ports. The PC is a Core I7-930 and this is all it's doing. So it probably feels insulted doing these menial tasks... ;)
     
  18. Sep 19, 2010 #6558 of 10248
    richsadams

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    You s/b able to set it to 128 using hddscan or the Hitachi Feature Tool v2.11. If one doesn't work, try the other. They are very quiet drives (at least the 3 I have are) so you may be fine w/o messing with it, but JIC.

    Ha! Could be! ;) But it sounds like the copy/expand process may have hung...it happens. You s/b able to copy everything including your recordings though so I'd give that another shot.
     
  19. Sep 20, 2010 #6559 of 10248
    mphtrilogy

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    I can't upgrade the internal at the moment and was planning to go through with the external hard drive (1TB), which version is reocmmended? The WD Version 2.0 USB/Esata MY Book, or the older 1TB WD version with just Esata?

    It looks to me the newer version might be more reliable as it has a longer warranty. This is for a TIVO HD
     
  20. Sep 20, 2010 #6560 of 10248
    richsadams

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    The newest WD My Book AV DVR Expander hasn't been out long enough to have a track record, however with the two-year warranty I would definitely go with the it rather than the older model.
     

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