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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Sep 17, 2010 #6521 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    That's the correct drive and since you're buying via Amazon you get their 30 day return policy. As ThAbtO mentioned, "Intellipark" is a Western Digital proprietary "feature" so no worries there. I have three of those Hitachi drives and they're pretty quiet out of the box, but for TiVo you'd probably want to adjust the AAM to 128 and that's quite simple...just follow the instructions on the FAQ.
     
  2. Sep 17, 2010 #6522 of 10248
    s2krazy

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    I guess you're referring to return in the case that it doesn't fix the tivo? No worries there, if it didn't fix the tivo, my computer could always use another Tb... LOL. Of course I'd still be pissed that new newest Tivo was the first to fail (sheesh, the Sony Series 1 is still ticking). Anyway, ordering the drive now, thanks for the help and I'm sure I'll be back with more questions.
     
  3. Sep 17, 2010 #6523 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I was thinking if it arrives DOA or fails in the first 30 days or so...free replacement including shipping. (Otherwise there's the manufacturer's warranty of course.)

    Now it's just a waiting game eh? Just don't throw the cableco DVR into the ocean when you get frustrated with it in the meantime! ;)
     
  4. Sep 17, 2010 #6524 of 10248
    s2krazy

    s2krazy New Member

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    I guess its good to have just in case it comes like the last 1Tb drive I received. The bare drive was on the bottom of the box with no packing around it.

    http://twitpic.com/86e3g

    Yes, this one was DOA...
     
  5. Sep 17, 2010 #6525 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Yikes! :eek: A lot of folks including yours truly have received drives from newegg that were very poorly packed...if at all. I was lucky because they all worked fine however. IIRC Newegg has improved their hard drive packing practices now though.

    Everything I've gotten from or through Amazon has been packed quite well.
     
  6. Sep 17, 2010 #6526 of 10248
    cbad

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    Thank you again for posting in the other thread and then sending me over here. Huge help!

    Now my eyes are wide open, and even though I've been using TiVo since the '90s, I now see possibilities I never even explored.

    It's all good!
     
  7. Sep 17, 2010 #6527 of 10248
    warehouse

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    I just bought one of the new Western Digital My Book AV DVR Expanders for my TIVO HD and tried to install it. My Tivo would hang and never get past the initial "powering up" screen. I went and read some reviews on Amazon where there are some statements that this drive was not compatible with the Tivo HD which kind of ticked me off since there's a big "TIVO verified" sticker on the front of the drive.

    I then came to this thread and found a reference to a bad cable. I used a spare e-SATA cable and the TIVO booted OK and I was able to connect the drive but now it's rebooting randomly. I have disconnected the drive since it seems unreliable.

    Has anyone else been able to get this to work and if so, were there any tricks you had to do? Should I just return this drive and order the old model?
     
  8. Sep 17, 2010 #6528 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

    Robbdoe1 Tivo Obsessed

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    A Tivo HD will only work with a WD My DVR Expander. Your best bet is to upgrade the internal drive and reduce the additional point of failure that an external drive adds.

    The Tivo verified is for the original S3 which can run that drive via a backdoor that Tivo chose to leave open to those units only.

    Here is the one that works:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_re=my_dvr_expander-_-22-136-384-_-Product

    Robb
     
  9. Sep 17, 2010 #6529 of 10248
    ThAbtO

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  10. Sep 18, 2010 #6530 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Yes, the WD My Book AV DVR Expander will in fact work with the TiVo HD, HDXL and Series3. There was one post on Amazon claiming theirs didn't work but it most likely a bad unit, bad cable, etc. There are a number of folks here using them successfully. If it began behaving somewhat normally when you changed the SATA cable it's quite possible that the recommended SIIG Serial ATA external cable could resolve things (it's about $10):

    http://www.provantage.com/siig-cb-sa0111-s1~7SISE00F.htm

    That said the earlier 1TB My DVR Expanders seem to be doing fairly well as compared to the "original" 500GB My DVR Expanders which had a lifespan of about 12 to 18 months...unacceptable by most anyone's standards.

    As Robb mentioned, most folks here would recommend upgrading the internal hard drive rather than having two points of potential failure. If you're comfortable connecting a hard drive to a computer (even via USB) it's a fairly easy DIY project that takes less than an hour and costs around $50 to $75 depending on the hard drive you purchase. Everything you need to know can be found on the first post of this thread.

    Your call of course. Me? I think I'd return the drive and get another one just in case it's something more than the cable and while I was waiting for a replacement order one of the SIIG eSATA cables as a backup. Actually it was me once and I decided to upgrade the internal hard drive...but that's just me. ;)

    Best of luck and let us know how it goes.
     
  11. Sep 18, 2010 #6531 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Actually as noted above, the newer WD My Book AV DVR Expander will work with the TiVo HD as noted by several folks here and a number of reviews on Amazon's website (and even one on newegg).

    Agreed about upgrading the internal hard drive in lieu of connecting an external. :up:
     
  12. Sep 18, 2010 #6532 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

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    My bad guys. I never realized they infact worked on a THD. Sorry for the mis-information and thanks for setting me straight.

    Robb
     
  13. Sep 18, 2010 #6533 of 10248
    warehouse

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    Thanks for all of the replies. I'm returning the drive since it's acting unreliable. Even if it's just the cable I don't want to risk losing all of my recordings because of a defective drive.

    I'll probably just go with the new internal. I replaced the drive in my old series 2 so I'm not worried about the technical part, I was just trying to preserve the warranty, but my warranty will expire shortly anyway.
     
  14. Sep 18, 2010 #6534 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sounds good. With regard to the warranty, as long as you keep your original drive on the shelf (strongly recommended as a backup anyway), if something did go south you could always slip it back in for an exchange. Although TiVo can tell when a box has been modded if they want to look at their logs, there have only been a couple of cases over the years when TiVo refused to honor the warranty. (I suspect that the owner's felt an overwhelming need to confess what they had done when they called in.)

    Happy upgrading!
     
  15. Sep 18, 2010 #6535 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Ain't no thang! ;)
     
  16. Sep 18, 2010 #6536 of 10248
    cr33p

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    Just upgraded my Premiere with a 2tb EARS drive from newegg, no problems with it at all and no soft reboot issue :)

    Build Date: July 28 2010
     
  17. Sep 18, 2010 #6537 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Thanks for the drive info. :up: Congrats and enjoy!
     
  18. Sep 18, 2010 #6538 of 10248
    ThAbtO

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    So, how many HD hours do you have now?:)
     
  19. Sep 18, 2010 #6539 of 10248
    mkkelly75

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    Just thought I would post that I have upgrade a second TiVo (1st was a Premiere) with a WD10EADS successfully with no reboot issues. The manufacture date on this one (strangely the same date as the 1st one I upgraded) is Sept of 2009. :up:
     
  20. Sep 18, 2010 #6540 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Congratulations! Without being too picky, did you happen to notice the what day in September? That can make a difference...although it looks like most drive post August 10th 2010 or so are free and clear. Seems some of the much earlier EADS series doesn't have any issues either. IIRC your other drive was Sept 20th 2009? TIA and enjoy!
     

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