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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Sep 9, 2010 #6421 of 10248
    richsadams

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    You can do that but you'd get an immediate error message so you'd need to run Clear and Delete Everything to get it to work. That will essentially create a "new" TiVo so I think that probably wrecks your plans to keep everything intact though. :(
     
  2. Sep 9, 2010 #6422 of 10248
    richsadams

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    What bmgoodman said. Check the current version, if it's not 11.0h go ahead and try to force an update by going to Messages & Settings->Settings->Phone & Network->Connect now. Try that a few times. Once the download has completed you will see "Pending restart" listed in the “Last Status” line on the Phone & Network Screen and on the System Information screen. TiVo will automatically install the update at 2 a.m. your time or you can reboot it (unplug it and plug it back in) and it will update immediately.

    If it's already running the latest software then yes, it's quite possible that Intellipark will need to be disabled (or extended). This seems to be hit and miss at the moment for some reason.

    Let us know how it goes and TIA for reporting back!
     
  3. Sep 9, 2010 #6423 of 10248
    DinoBambino

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    I'm pretty sure that the Tivo has the latest software since the machine has been in use over a year.

    I will check the software version later tonight after I get the kids to bed.

    Thanks for the suggestions.

    Dean
     
  4. Sep 9, 2010 #6424 of 10248
    mphtrilogy

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    I am ok with losing my data, since it will all be lost when I get rid of the expander, the other Tivo does not have much on it.

    So would it be as easy as taking the hard drive out of Tivo HD 1 and putting it into the avaiable slot in Tivo HD2?

    Or is there more to it?
     
  5. Sep 9, 2010 #6425 of 10248
    dlfl

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    If you are using CableCARD(s) you will have to have them re-installed on most cable systems, usually requiring a service call. I believe there are exceptions to this but don't know what they are. The only way to avoid this (unless you're on one of the lucky systems) is to backup and restore currently running TiVo systems, e.g., using WinMFS.
     
  6. Sep 9, 2010 #6426 of 10248
    richsadams

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    What dlfl said. Switching hard drives and running C&DE would be akin to having a brand new TiVo. Otherwise, yes it would be an easy swap out. (FYI there are no "slots" as we know them in computers...the hard drive sits on a sled that you have to pull (four screws) and then swap out the hard drive (four more screws). Looks like this. Quite simple though. You'll need a Torx 10 (T10) screwdriver to remove the cover and possibly a T15 for the drive...although more recently they've started using T10 screws for the cover and the hard drive mount. Torx screwdrivers can be found at Sears, most auto supply stores, etc.
     
  7. Sep 9, 2010 #6427 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

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    Rich,
    My Desktop only has IDE connectors with no SATA. Can I use an IDE/SATA adapter at the ribbon cable?

    Robb
     
  8. Sep 9, 2010 #6428 of 10248
    ThreeSoFar

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    I know people have used USB/SATA adapters, not sure about IDE.

    I use this and it works fine, assuming you have a free PCI slot for it. You need cables to do the data back and forth to this, and possibly a power splitter that takes the large power cable off of your power supply and splits it into two SATA style power adapters.


    RAID CARD ROSEWILL|RC-201 2P SATA R

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ontrollers+/+RAID+Cards-_-Rosewill-_-16132001



    Power cable options:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...re=sata_power_splitter-_-12-119-010-_-Product

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=sata_power_adapter-_-12-717-003-_-Product
     
  9. Sep 9, 2010 #6429 of 10248
    richsadams

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    All looks good, but will the SATA/RAID controller work for adjusting the Intellipark feature? IIRC you have to have a direct MB SATA port connection.
     
  10. Sep 9, 2010 #6430 of 10248
    ThreeSoFar

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    It does. I used wdidle3 with a bootable DOS floppy. My BIOS (Dell Optiplex something-or-other) recognizes any SATA drives plugged into this and maps them somehow that even DOS saw it.
     
  11. Sep 9, 2010 #6431 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Excellent! I shall add that to my "tool kit" of knowledge. :up:
     
  12. Sep 9, 2010 #6432 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

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    Very good. I have a free PCI slot and the second cable (SATA to 4pin should work) That could get me by in a pinch. Maybe?

    If you had to pick a drive that did not have to be tuned or have the Intellipark issue, what drive would you choose?

    Thanks Much.
    Robb
     
  13. Sep 9, 2010 #6433 of 10248
    richsadams

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    The Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C HD31000 IDK/7K. It's very quiet out of the box (average of 2.4bels to 2.5bels) and the AAM can be tuned to 128 making it even quieter. (Adjusting the AAM can be done via a USB/SATA dock or adapter and is very simple..can be done any time as well.) Also runs cool.
     
  14. Sep 9, 2010 #6434 of 10248
    Robbdoe1

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    Thanks. I have the adapter already so that will make it easy even if I don't tune it. I'm having withdraw symptoms already. Thinking of getting the HD anyway to tide me over.

    Robb
     
  15. Sep 9, 2010 #6435 of 10248
    mkkelly75

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    So I read earlier in this thread that someone had success using the MFS tools to upgrade to a 2TB hdd following the standard instructions. It seemed it was working well but then he ran into some issues when it got full (forgive me if I am confusing 2 separate issues here). Is there an confirmation that this will not work or that it does? Haven't seen anything definitive.
     
  16. Sep 9, 2010 #6436 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Must be BIOS adds as they would work before any OS is even loaded. That should also mean you could boot from a SATA on that card as well.
     
  17. Sep 9, 2010 #6437 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Should'a known you'd know all about that stuff! ;)
     
  18. Sep 9, 2010 #6438 of 10248
    DinoBambino

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    The Tivo is running software version 11.0h.

    I ran wdidle against the Tivo upgrade drive. Now the soft reboot works fine without any hangups.

    In my case, a WD10EARS manufactured on 8/3/2010 had the soft reboot issue.

    Thanks to everyone in this forum who has provided advice and soultions for Tivo issues. I've fixed/replaced the power supply, fan and hard drive in my S2. Diagnosed a faulty WD Expander (never use one of those again). And, upgraded the internal drive in two TivoHd's.

    Dean
     
  19. Sep 9, 2010 #6439 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Good info...thanks very much. :up: Oh, and enjoy!
     
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