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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Aug 30, 2010 #6361 of 10248
    GPT999

    GPT999 New Member

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    I am happy to report that after a few system software upgrades ( my system had been offline for 1.5 months, talk about missing Tivo) with things not working so well, my system is now upgraded with the 1Tb WD internal drive and the liberated Free Agent Pro drive ( Barracuda 1Tb) now housed in external enclosure connected through the eSata port. 318 HD hours! :D:D

    I guess I consider any HDD as a liability and if I have anything that precious to me, I store it in several locations. So I am not worried that my external drive has some age.

    Thanks again for all the help!
     
  2. Aug 30, 2010 #6362 of 10248
    Phantom Gremlin

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    I don't think it's a good idea to put two hard drives into a single TiVo box.

    I have no direct knowledge of TiVo's power supply spec, but it looks like full custom, not something off the shelf. In general, consumer electronics is manufactured without any design margin. TiVo certainly didn't size the PSU expecting it to simultaneously power two drives. Yes I know the added load from a 2nd drive isn't very high, but IMO the TiVo PSU won't win any awards for "most over-engineered power supply". It won't even be nominated. :)
     
  3. Aug 30, 2010 #6363 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Not to mention the extra heat the 2nd drive adds to the TiVo!
     
  4. Aug 30, 2010 #6364 of 10248
    rgiaquinta

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    Murphy's Law in action: I took your (much appreciated) sage advice, and ordered a UPS on Thursday, expecting it to come in early this week. Would you believe that on the very same Thursday night, my 4th Tivo unit started to spontaneously reboot...! This unit is in pristine condition: never opened the case, is plugged directly into wall, etc. It lasted two months and now is being sent back for replacement. So... I will not plug in the replacement until I have received the UPS. I will then ride out my 90 warrantee with no modifications. If the 5th unit will stay alive that long, then I'll try a DIY upgrade. Will keep you all posted.
     
  5. Aug 30, 2010 #6365 of 10248
    DixonAgee

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    I did an upgrade to 1TB on my Tivo Series 3 about 16 months ago using the now discontinued WD WD10EVCS drive. Unfortunately, the drive has begun to 'buzz' periodically as if working very hard at seeking. Before replacing the drive is there any chance that some tweak will quiet the drive? I did a search on the forum but didn't find a match for 'buzz'.

    Otherwise I fear that the drive is on its way out. Vibrations seem to initiate the buzz - but it can also happen spontaneously. It is definitely getting more frequent. :(

    In reading the info it appears that my 'best' bet might be to get a 'green' WD drive, disable Intellipark and move everything to the new drive.

    Thanks for any advise or encouragement you might provide.

    - Bruce Agee
     
  6. Aug 31, 2010 #6366 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Any unusual noise from a hard drive is bad news, particularly if it's getting more frequent. I'd get the new drive and try copying everything over ASAP.

    Your WD drive should have a three-year warranty so an RMA is in order, but I don't know that I'd wait for a replacement to arrive.

    Best of luck and let us know how things go.
     
  7. Aug 31, 2010 #6367 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Have you tried running with the TiVo cover off? That way, when the "buzz" starts you can be sure it is the drive and not the fan. Also, it could be a loose carrier for the drive. When buzzing, if it is not the fan, try a little preasure on the HDD to see if it stops. The buzz may not be the drive!
     
  8. Aug 31, 2010 #6368 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Ugh! Well, I think you have a good plan going forward. Hopefully #5 will be the charm!
     
  9. Aug 31, 2010 #6369 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Good ideas...but if it is the drive, don't wait to replace it! :)
     
  10. Aug 31, 2010 #6370 of 10248
    cr33p

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    Anyone used and of the Samsung Spinpoint drives?
     
  11. Aug 31, 2010 #6371 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I tried a Sammy 1TB Spinpoint in our TiVo HD a while back and could not get it to boot up (Hanging at the welcome screen).

    There have also been other reports of problems for those that did get them to work, although IIRC there are a few folks that had success.

    In any case, they aren't on the recommended list for a reason and probably s/b avoided.
     
  12. Aug 31, 2010 #6372 of 10248
    cr33p

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    amelnik

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    kettledrum

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    I'm looking at buying an HD and upgrading it. However, my computer is so old that it does not use SATA drives. Can anyone point me to any good enclosures to use for doing the upgrade on my computer?

    I also understand that it will need to be an eSATA enclosure if I get a WD drive and need to disable intellipark? Or is that no longer the case? There was a post onthe previous page talking about how that may not be necessary any longer?
     
  15. Sep 2, 2010 #6375 of 10248
    pilotbob

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    I recently did this... I bought and used a USB to Sata adapter. Worked great.

    Here's the one I bought:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812156014

    BOb
     
  16. Sep 2, 2010 #6376 of 10248
    richsadams

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    That or a USB/SATA dock will work fine (I prefer the dock as it's very easy to connect and use later) Here's an example...

    http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Sata-HDD-Docking-Station/dp/B0012Z3MKW

    However as the OP mentioned, you cannot disable or extend the timeout on WD's Intellipark drives via a USB connection as it has to be a direct SATA connection. Apparently some, but not all of the newest WD GP drives no longer require Intellipark to be disabled to avoid the soft reboot issue. It's a bit of a crap shoot right now.

    As mentioned earlier, have a close look at your motherboard. Even though they may be using an EIDE hard drive, many MB's had SATA connectors many years ago. I have one Intel MB that's over 10 years old that has four SATA ports on it.

    An alternative (if you can't get access to a computer with a SATA connection) would be to use a the Hitachi Drive many folks have had success with...

    Deskstar 7K1000.C HD31000 IDK/7K

    Note that it needs to be that exact model (with the "C" suffix) as similar model's acoustics are unacceptable.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  17. Sep 2, 2010 #6377 of 10248
    aaronwt

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    I thought all the hitachi drives could be set for low acoustics? Even my old 5 platter 1Tb hitachis are quiet with the AM setting at 128.
     
  18. Sep 2, 2010 #6378 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I believe that's correct, but IIRC a number of reports indicated that even with the AAM at 128 some of them were still unacceptable (which flies in the face of logic but there it is), plus ran quite hot too. The Deskstar 7K1000.C HD31000 IDK/7K is widely available and usually for a pretty reasonable price on sale in any case. Better safe than sorry and all.
     
  19. Sep 2, 2010 #6379 of 10248
    delgadobb

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    +1 on the USB/SATA dock.

    I picked up a couple of these as part of combo(s) ordered from NewEgg & couldn't be happier. I've done a number of upgrades for my own Tivo HDs & for a bunch of friends & it's SOOO much easier when you don't have to tear apart a computer. No shutting down, opening case, mounting new drives, possibly resetting boot sequence, yadda yadda. Pop in the drive, run WinMFS & you're good to go.

    Gotta agree with Rich on the Hitachi as well. I've configured a couple of these (one for myself & one for a friend) & they're working just fine. Generally, they're readily available for a good price.

    So, I guess I'm saying Rich is a smart guy. Somehow, I don't think he'll mind me saying that ...
     
  20. Sep 2, 2010 #6380 of 10248
    richsadams

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    :eek: Oh criminy...now what do I owe you! ;)
     

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