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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Aug 10, 2010 #6241 of 10248
    tcfcameron

    tcfcameron (4) 2TB TiVo HDs

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    It's my understanding several people on here posess a copy of the 2TB "Broflovski" / Hybrid TiVo HD Image. I am asking for you to share it with me. Pretty Please?

    I have spent months trying to get a hold of anything that would let me use the full capacity of the 2TB drives I bought for my TiVo HD (TCD652160) units. I consider this a last-resort.

    I already spent my money on WD20EADS drives, which are already in-use and working perfectly (except that I'm only able to use half of the capacity). There's no point in telling me about dvr_dude on eBay, or pointing me to any of the web shops selling pre-imaged drives, as I already have the drives I bought, which were purchased BEFORE any of these options were available (I was OK with 1/2 capacity at the time, given the price I got on the drives). I already tried the efnet/ftp route, but that did not provide anything that addresses the >1TB issue.

    I promise to abide by the author's wishes that the image not be made publicly accessable (keeping it off all the public file-sharing sites that I have been searching for it on, etc.)

    A reply, whether yay or nay, would be greatly appreciated.

    -Update: I have met the required 5 posts to be able to send/receive PMs now.

    Thanks in advance,
    Cameron (tcfcameron)
    groupsposter (at) gmail (dot) com
     
  2. Aug 10, 2010 #6242 of 10248
    ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

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    I don't have it (yet), so can't help you. Just in case you weren't aware, though (sounds like you know this already), you'll lose all your current content with the new image, FYI.

    PS: Please PM me, as well, as I'd like this image, as well.

    Good luck!

     
  3. Aug 10, 2010 #6243 of 10248
    tcfcameron

    tcfcameron (4) 2TB TiVo HDs

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    I am aware of that. But, thank you for pointing it out, just in case. Part of why I'm asking here, is that I'm going to do some "swapping around" (I have two PLS TiVos and two monthly sub TiVos) and will lose everything, anyway. If I'm going to have to start from scratch, again, it would be a big plus to nearly double useable recording capacity as well.
     
  4. Aug 11, 2010 #6244 of 10248
    tcfcameron

    tcfcameron (4) 2TB TiVo HDs

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    It's my understanding several people on here posess a copy of the 2TB "Broflovski" / Hybrid TiVo HD Image. I am asking for you to share it with me. Pretty Please?

    I have spent months trying to get a hold of anything that would let me use the full capacity of the 2TB drives I bought for my TiVo HD (TCD652160) units. I consider this a last-resort.

    I already spent my money on WD20EADS drives, which are already in-use and working perfectly (except that I'm only able to use half of the capacity). There's no point in telling me about dvr_dude on eBay, or pointing me to any of the web shops selling pre-imaged drives, as I already have the drives I bought, which were purchased BEFORE any of these options were available (I was OK with 1/2 capacity at the time, given the price I got on the drives). I already tried the efnet/ftp route, but that did not provide anything that addresses the >1TB issue.

    I promise to abide by the author's wishes that the image not be made publicly accessable (keeping it off all the public file-sharing sites that I have been searching for it on, etc.)

    Any responses, whether yay or nay, would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance
     
  5. Aug 11, 2010 #6245 of 10248
    rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

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    You might look for Mr. Brevowski (however it's spelled) and send him a PM directly - he might not be following this thead.
     
  6. Aug 11, 2010 #6246 of 10248
    tcfcameron

    tcfcameron (4) 2TB TiVo HDs

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    That could have been a great suggestion...

    However, he was asked to stop distributing it (cease & decist, or something to that effect), but he asked that those who he already gave it to, share it with others who need it, just so long as it stays that way, and doesn't wind up out-in-the-wild on any public filesharing or FTP sites.

    Aparently those who have it are reluctant to share, or I would have received a PM by now :(
     
  7. Aug 11, 2010 #6247 of 10248
    Mr. Broflovski

    Mr. Broflovski New Member

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    C&D? :confused:

    please stop thread-crapping and have patience

    ./resume_stealth_mode &
     
  8. Aug 11, 2010 #6248 of 10248
    tcfcameron

    tcfcameron (4) 2TB TiVo HDs

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    Sorry, I just REALLY want/need to get it and see if it works (and continues working after a few TiVo software updates). I'm on a deadline, imposed by the others in the house (who use my other three TiVos), to get this done, like yesterday.

    I promise that I will delete all my duplicate posts and threads as soon as somebody steps-up and shares it with me. If that doesn't happen soon, I'll still go back and delete them all.

    My aploogies for "thread-crapping", as you put it. But, please, at least take into consideration that I just registered with TCF a few days ago & the MINIMUM post requirements here. The forums wouldn't let me do squat without 5 posts, then another 5 to gain more functionality, and I think another 5 more to become a fully functional member. My duplicity was born more from getting those initial posts out of the way than anything else. If it weren't for that, I'd have posted in a maximum of three of most appropriate existing threads I could find.
     
  9. Aug 14, 2010 #6249 of 10248
    sneagle

    sneagle Addicted Member TCF Club

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    Help...

    I am upgrading my 2 Tivo HDs with WinMFS using a Thermatake BlackXDuet connected by USB. The new drives are Western Digital Cavier Black 1TB-WD10000LSRTL.
    OS: Windows 7

    The first Tivo went perfect and the Tivo is up and running. The second Tivo copied to the new drive fine then WinMFS asked if I wanted to expand the drive. I clicked yes and then WinMFS crashed

    I rebooted and ran copy again and the same thing happened. :(

    Any suggestions?
     
  10. Aug 14, 2010 #6250 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    That sounds frustrating. If all things are equal between the two upgrades my first thought is that you have a bad drive. It sounds like winMFS is unable to create the proper partitions. You could try running Western Digital's Lifeguard diagnostic to see if the drive is the problem.

    Otherwise when you say that winMFS "crashed", exactly what happened?

    Curios, why did you go with that particular drive? WD's GP drives are quieter, run cooler (are usually less expensive) and TiVo isn't able to take advantage of a 7200RPM drive's speed. Just wondering.
     
  11. Aug 14, 2010 #6251 of 10248
    sneagle

    sneagle Addicted Member TCF Club

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    I chose those drives because:
    1. I thought the green drives were not good for the Tivo
    2. That's what they had at MicroCenter for $105 each
    3. Reading at MicroCenter on my iPhone seemed to confirm that the drives would work

    What happened was Windows came up with an error saying WinMFS has crashed. And WinMFS was sort of grey'd out.

    Meanwhile, I rebooted the computer a bunch of times and re-started the BlacXDuet. I tried the expand again and it worked. I can't explain it. I finished the steps and the Tivo booted fine. It has all my shows and system info says 157hr of HD.

    So, I guess it was a false alarm. Thanks for the help and sorry I took up everyone's time.
     
  12. Aug 14, 2010 #6252 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Excellent news! Sometimes you never know exactly what gremlins clog up the system.

    I forgot to ask, did you run wdidle.exe? If not, have you tried a soft reboot (TiVo Central > Messages and Settings > Restart or Reset System > Restart the DVR)? Did you adjust the AAM to 128? If not, how's the sound?

    I'm sure you'll be happy with those drives, however TiVo's OEM drives are 5400RPM with a minuscule 2MB of cache, so anything much beyond that isn't really necessary. The 1TB WDXXEARS models are going for around $60 or so on sale now. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but for anyone else thinking about upgrading there's no need to get the fastest, highest performing hard drive on the market...TiVo just can't take advantage of their speed or bells and whistles.

    Glad to hear things are working now. Enjoy your "new" Tivo's! :up:
     
  13. Aug 14, 2010 #6253 of 10248
    sneagle

    sneagle Addicted Member TCF Club

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    Loud in the bedroom. I am trying to adjust the AAM but it seems that the tools suggested will not recognize the drive when it is attached to the BlacXDuet. :(

    Another :( But I still feel like I saved money by avoiding the UMF and getting a Premiere. Plus by getting them locally, I had them in my paws immediately!

    Thanks!
     
  14. Aug 14, 2010 #6254 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Unfortunately as noted in the FAQ

    So you'll need to find a PC with an open SATA port if you want to adjust the AAM.

    Did you get to try the soft reboot? The reason I ask is that we've had mixed reports of the newer WD drives no longer having the soft reboot hanging issue and I was just curious to know if your drives exhibited the problem or not.
     
  15. Aug 14, 2010 #6255 of 10248
    sneagle

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    I was able to get HDDSCan to recognize the drives using USB. There was a little more finagling involved including a seeming minor change in the eSATA setting on the BIOS. I also think that the BlacXDuet needs to be 'restarted' on reboot by unplugging and plugging back in. Not sure if that is true, but that did seem to help with my troubles.

    Bottom line both drives are set for AAM 128. The bedroom has restarted and seems to be working fine. The living room drive is sitting next to me anxiously waiting to be reinstalled.

    Soft reset on the Tivo...WD hanging on reboot? Sounds scary? What is the cure? THe bedroom Tivo is not doing a soft reboot...I will report back.

    P.S. I think the Tivo is 'snappier' with the new, FASTER drive! :p
     
  16. Aug 14, 2010 #6256 of 10248
    sneagle

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    Soft reboot went smooth. Both Tivo's up and running.

    I am sad I waited so long to upgrade. My last upgrade experience was with my DirecTivo's and required taking drives out of the computer and blah, blah, blah.

    WinMFS is AWESOME.
     
  17. Aug 14, 2010 #6257 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Great news! I should have explained the soft reboot issue. Basically it means that if you perform a manual restart from the TiVo menu TiVo would hang at the "Welcome! Powering up..." screen. A hard reboot (unplug TiVo and plug it back in) would resolve things. It began appearing with WD drives about a year ago when Western Digital introduced an enhanced "Intellipark" power saving feature. To resolve things a little program, wdidle.exe, has or had to be run to disable Intellipark or extend the timeout period. (More details in the FAQ). It wouldn't be a big deal except for the fact that when TiVo issues an update, TiVo has to reboot...the same process as a restart. That meant if there was a problem TiVo would reboot but hang at the "Welcome" screen until the owner power-cycled it. In the meantime it wouldn't be recording anything, etc. and that's not a good thing. As mentioned after a somewhat recent TiVo software upgrade and apparently adjustments to WD's line of drives, it's no longer an issue, at least for some drives. Glad to hear that it's not a problem for yours. :up:

    To clarify, you were able to adjust the AAM to 128 with your dock connected via USB?

    Okay, thanks much for the feedback and now go enjoy some TiVo!
     
  18. Aug 14, 2010 #6258 of 10248
    sneagle

    sneagle Addicted Member TCF Club

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    Soft reboot: PASSED on Bedroom unit - did not have to diddle it :D
    AAM 128: Set on both units using the USB connection
    Family response: Meh. They did not seem impressed or to care. :( I'll teach them by deleting their shows anyway!
     
  19. Aug 14, 2010 #6259 of 10248
    kdigit0l

    kdigit0l New Member

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    Thanks for this thread! Just upgraded my TiVoHD to 1TB with the Hitachi HD31000 with AAM set to the recommended level of quiet performance. The upgrade works well, was easy to perform, and is so much better thanthe 500GB Western Digital MyDVR Expander solution we employed before (which recently failed on us after the warranty expired). I can't recommend this upgrade enough to anybody with the even the slightest bit of PC knowledge.

    Thanks Again!
     
  20. Aug 14, 2010 #6260 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Congrats and enjoy!
     

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