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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jul 16, 2010 #6141 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Newegg has the 1TB WD WD10EARS for $59.99 using code EMCYVZT34. Includes free shipping! Sale runs through 07/18/10.

    http://bit.ly/dxRjNl
     
  2. Jul 16, 2010 #6142 of 10248
    rich111

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    I have purchased this from NewEgg a 1TB WD10EARS (Mfg Date 12/2009). I am replacing a now noisy 500 GB drive that is about 3 years old.
    Questions as follows, do I need to run both Wdidle3 and Hddscan on this drive? Must both these operations be done by connecting direct to Sata connectors on my PC and running under DOS? Little uncomfortable with this (PC is Window 7).
    Once having done this to the new drive, I would like to use 2 Sata to USB connectors to copy/transfer files from existing 500 GB to new 1TB. Any estimate on how long copy of about 60 Hours of programs would take?
    Thanks
     
  3. Jul 16, 2010 #6143 of 10248
    ThreeSoFar

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    I'll let Rich speak to the specifics of what you need to do. But one thing that can help you feel better about your PC is to disconnect that drive entirely as soon as you crack open the case. Label the wires if there are enough loose ones to confuse you. This means you don't have that as a destination to write a backup image, if you wanted one, but it also means there's no way to mess up that drive/OS.

    I have a very old spare IDE drive without much life in it left. It's yours if you'd like me to ship it to you (two actually, if anyone else is interested). You can mail me back a check for the shipping amount. It would allow you to write a .bak image of your TiVo, then when all is said and done, mount that drive with your Windows 7 drive and copy it to there. PM me your address if you're interested. Should be about $10 shipping, USPS. Not sure how much for other carriers.
     
  4. Jul 16, 2010 #6144 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    I got two WD10EARS drives from the FRYS store and they, too, were 25 DEC 2009.

    I did run wdidle3 and hddscan as I did not want to put the THD back together and then find that I had to run the "fixes". You will not have to do the copy again, but I did not want to remove the THD from my TV area again.

    I did use the bootable wdidle3 ISO in the FAQ and booted from a CD. The drive, however was connected to the SATA port. One note...I kept getting hangs on this if I used any other command first. What I found was that when I booted, if the first thing I did was a wdidle3 /D, all was OK. The message then showed the time was then set to 3720 seconds or 62 minutes. If I played with any other command first, the above would hang. The first command would work, but I found that I could only do 1 command per boot. No problem.

    The next item I did was hddscan for windows. I set AAM to 128. This will work in USB, but as long as the drive was on the SATA port, I ran it anyway. One of these upgrades was for a Bedroom THD, and I must say that it is silent! Quieter than the original 160GB drive TIVO had in it!

    I am not sure how long the copy will take with the 2 USB ports but no matter what you do, remove the deleted shows first! It can take some time to copy these deleted shows and I bet you do not want them anyway!
     
  5. Jul 17, 2010 #6145 of 10248
    Grandpasteve

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    The truck roll went fine, the field rep called in the pairing to his dispatcher and that was that. No charge for the visit.

    Now I'm ready to fill up that 1TB of space - awesome!
     
  6. Jul 18, 2010 #6146 of 10248
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    richsadams

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    Nice find Randy. That is a very good price for a 2TB drive, but I've always valued data (even TiVo recordings) way too much to trust a reconditioned hard drive. For about twenty bucks more I'd go with a brand new one...but that's just me. :)
     
  8. Jul 19, 2010 #6148 of 10248
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    richsadams

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  10. Jul 20, 2010 #6150 of 10248
    TiVo Bob W

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    Well, I gave it a try over the weekend with no success. Tried two different ways. I have posted my results and errors over at http://www.mfslive.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1565&sid=6beef62b254cb896d5e54d7a80c6301b

    Thanks, Bob
     
  11. Jul 20, 2010 #6151 of 10248
    fluffie

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    I ran the first of the kickstart routines several days ago. It said it would take a few hours, then only took a few minutes. I haven't had a freeze up since. Still planning on replacing the HD when I get a chance. Thanks,
    Linda

    Linda
     
  12. Jul 21, 2010 #6152 of 10248
    richsadams

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    That's good to hear Linda. :up: A short diagnostic response may indicate that there were a small number of bad sectors and that TiVo was able to isolate them. Something else could come up later though, so replacing the drive certainly couldn't hurt.

    Let us know how things go!
     
  13. Jul 22, 2010 #6153 of 10248
    hybucket

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    A quickie question...I've bought a new enclosure for my 500 My Expander...is there a secret way to getting the HD out of the old one? I don't see any way other than cracking the case.
     
  14. Jul 22, 2010 #6154 of 10248
    richsadams

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    IIRC it's a matter for brute force. I think someone posted a little "how to" sometime back. Seems like it was a matter of carefully popping the seams and unsnapping the two halves of the case. If you're not planning on reusing it you can probably just force it open...just be careful not to stick a screwdriver, etc. too deep inside...you don't want to damage the hard drive. Of course be sure to avoid any static electricity.
     
  15. Jul 22, 2010 #6155 of 10248
    jjeff

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    Does anyone know what happened to BKDTV, the originator of this wonderful thread? He also has a similar great thread on AVS under BFDTV. He hasn't posted here since June 27th and on AVS since June 12th. He used to post daily and his great threads are thee reason I purchased a Tivo(HD), something I said I'd never do(but I couldn't be happier:)).
    I hope all is well with bfdtv....
     
  16. Jul 22, 2010 #6156 of 10248
    jgbeldock

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    Hi gang. I have purchased and installed two different external 1tb eSata drives and one 500gb drive over the past three days. My S3, running 11.0g-01-2-648 recognizes that a drive is plugged in if I go to Home / Settings/ ... / External Devices, but no matter how many times I tell it to set up this external drive, when it reboots, the S3 says the same thing (drive is not set up) when I return to this menu. Recommendations, anyone?

    Thanks,
    James
     
  17. Jul 22, 2010 #6157 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum James (although it looks like you've been hanging around for a while). Please post all of the details about each drive you're trying to use. Also if your TiVo has the original internal hard drive.
     
  18. Jul 23, 2010 #6158 of 10248
    ThAbtO

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    Here is the clue as to what Tivo he has. :)
     
  19. Jul 23, 2010 #6159 of 10248
    richsadams

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    D'oh! Gotta stop skimming the posts! :eek:
     
  20. Jul 23, 2010 #6160 of 10248
    jgbeldock

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    Thanks, gents, for the quick reply. ThAbt0 has it right: it's an unmodified Series3 with the original hard drive, currently running 11.0g-01-2-648. The latest drive not to work is a 1TB Toshiba which shows up as "Toshiba External HDD 1AG01118" in system status. I tried kickstart 54 and the drives both passed S.M.A.R.T. The other two drives not to work were a Western Digital Green 1 TB and an older Maxtor 500 Gb.

    Thanks again for any advice you can offer.

    -J
     

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