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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jul 11, 2010 #6121 of 10248
    aaronwt

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    I always left the swap size at default on all my series 3 boxes. They all had 1TB drives in them that I created with WinMFS. And none of them ever had any issues.
     
  2. Jul 12, 2010 #6122 of 10248
    Sbmocp

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    ThreeSoFar and aaronwt--

    THanks for your input. To be safe I think I'll go w/512. The worst that can happen is that I'll have to re-do if something goofs up.
     
  3. Jul 12, 2010 #6123 of 10248
    abishop

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    Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I couldn't find anyplace better.

    I have a Hitachi Cinemastar 1TB external drive with Antec Veris MX-1 enclosure and all cables needed that I set my dad up with for his Series 3. He just upgraded to the Premier and gave me the stuff to sell. Doesn't look like many of these show up on ebay, so I thought I'd post here in case anyone was interested before putting it on ebay.

    Shoot me a message if interested (or tell me where would be better to post this).

    Thanks!
     
  4. Jul 13, 2010 #6124 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum. If you do decide to post it on ebay you can also post the details on the Forum's "eBay Auction Central":

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=68

    If you do end up putting it on ebay, I'd probably split them up...sell the drive and the enclosure separately; you'll probably get more money and appeal to a wider audience. There s/b be a decent amount of interest in the Hitachi Cinemastar drive as it's a dedicated A/V hard drive and very quiet. Of course the MX-1 enclosures are favorites here as well.

    BTW, you should probably mention how old it is and/or how long it's been in service.

    Best of luck!
     
  5. Jul 13, 2010 #6125 of 10248
    drcos

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    As a follow-up, the WD15EARS does work in the S3. Did need to do the wdidle command to get it to work first. This was a new drive from NewEgg.
    BTW, this drive dropped (after I bought it) to 89.99.
     
  6. Jul 13, 2010 #6126 of 10248
    fluffie

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    I upgraded the internal drive in my TivoHD very soon after buying it in 2007.

    It is now behaving like the description of a "newer Green WD HDD" in that what started out as occasionally and is now frequent, I must unplug and re-plug in the TivoHD when I go to watch as it is stuck on Welcome! Powering up...

    But I don't see how it can be the "Intellipark" issue as the drive is not "newer". How old is newer? :)

    My question is: Should I (can I) follow the instructions under section B of the Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ and retain my shows while the TivoHD is still usable?

    The problem has become more frequent lately and I am worried that the HD will fail completely.

    Thank you!!
     
  7. Jul 13, 2010 #6127 of 10248
    Grandpasteve

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    My original HD died, although it was not initially apparent it was truly dead. I could not create an image from it even though it passed all of the WD tests. Anyway after unsuccessfully begging for an image, I bought Instant Cake and a Hitachi HD31000.

    I tried Instant Cake with the original drive while waiting for the replacement. Instant Cake would say it was baked, but I could tell there was no drive activity.

    The Hitachi works perfectly. I could not set AAM using my USB to SATA adapter, but the drive is virtually silent.

    I was worried about cable cards, but I called Comcast and they reset everything in one pleasant phone call. The operator's name was Verna and she was wonderful.
     
  8. Jul 13, 2010 #6128 of 10248
    fluffie

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    HCS721010KLA332 seems to be HCS721010CLA332 now? is that the correct drive part number? (CLA vs. KLA)
     
  9. Jul 13, 2010 #6129 of 10248
    Grandpasteve

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  10. Jul 13, 2010 #6130 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Thanks very much for the info. :up: Did you happen to notice the manufacture date? TIA.
     
  11. Jul 13, 2010 #6131 of 10248
    richsadams

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    The short answer is yes. If TiVo is able to boot up properly you should still be able to use the drive to image a new one. FWIW the problems would have nothing to do with the Intellipark "feature" of the newer drives...and it does indeed sound like the hard drive is going south.

    If you wanted to, you could try running some of TiVo's built-in diagnostic and repair programs called "Kickstarts". At times they can overcome some minor data corruption or isolate bad sectors on a hard drive. It might be worth a shot, but again it does sound like the hard drive may have seen better days and three years or so isn't great, but not terrible for a drive that's been in service and operational 24/7. Here's a link to the Kickstart info:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showpost.php?p=5643823&postcount=2

    Hope that helps and let us know how things go.
     
  12. Jul 13, 2010 #6132 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Nice! Particularly about being able to get Comcast to re-pair your cable cards over the phone...that's fairly unusual for them. :up: I have three of those drives (two in a NAS and one as a backup drive) and they are very quiet and have been rock solid for about a year now.

    Enjoy your "brand new" TiVo and all of that additional real estate!
     
  13. Jul 13, 2010 #6133 of 10248
    richsadams

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    That might be the case, both are Hitachi Cinemastar drives, but I'm not sure if one replaces the other or not. Either should be fine for TiVo purposes.
     
  14. Jul 13, 2010 #6134 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Well, I wanted to update you all on my two additional THD 1GB Upgrades. I had to do this because of Verizon/Frontier FIOS...long story in other thread! :D

    I used the WD10EARS as they were less expensive than 1.5 or 2 TB drives and 157 hours is enough.. I ran wdidle3 and hddscan to set AAM to 128.

    Not only are both THD's running OK so far, but what I did not expect was that these drives are quieter than the original 160GB drives! The one in the Bedroom is silent! So now, if there is a show on that has a CCI Byte of 0x02, I set my THD's up as RAID 1! :D
     
  15. Jul 13, 2010 #6135 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sweet! Great info for future upgraders. :up:
     
  16. Jul 13, 2010 #6136 of 10248
    Grandpasteve

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  17. Jul 14, 2010 #6137 of 10248
    Grandpasteve

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    Anyway my cable card (M) is working, but not decoding HBO and Encore channels. I tried 3 different phone reps to get it working, but I ended up accepting a truck roll for Saturday.
     
  18. Jul 14, 2010 #6138 of 10248
    pl1

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    HURRY UP!

    Western Digital 2 TB Caviar Green SATA Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive WD20EARS

    Gold Box Price: $99.00 (38% off)

    Amazon.com

    Good Until 10:00 AM PDT or until sold out. Currently 68% sold out 8:26 PDT
    Sold Out as of 9:30 AM PDT
     
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  20. Jul 15, 2010 #6140 of 10248
    richsadams

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    So the new Expander has eSATA and USB ports. Wonder how many support calls to TiVo that will generate? :p
     

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