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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jul 1, 2010 #6081 of 10248
    durbin

    durbin New Member

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    My 500GB WD drive has failed. I was looking at amazon and found the 1TB for $119 and that seems like an excellent price. But, it says this is an updated drive and requires a firmware upgrade from tivo.

    "Firmware updates from Tivo that need to be downloaded to Tivo boxes before they will work with our new DVR Expander" Any ideas on how to know if you have this update?
     
  2. Jul 1, 2010 #6082 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Sorry to hear about your "loss". All firmware updates are automatic...nothing to do on your end. Just follow the installation instructions that come with it or on TiVo's website and you'll be good to go.

    Enjoy!
     
  3. Jul 1, 2010 #6083 of 10248
    durbin

    durbin New Member

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    Thanks for the info. Yes, lost every recording. Could not download shows with kmttg or desktop. Tivo would reboot during the download.
     
  4. Jul 1, 2010 #6084 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Well, I did it along with AAM. I had a strange issue with the bootable wdidle3, however, so once I got it going, I did both drives. I did not want to do this again. This may help some and MAY want to be in the FAQ. Section V.14 sort of mentions this, but does not say that you may run into a situation where you can ONLY run 1 command. So don't waste it on anything other than a wdidle3 /D.

    I connected the WD10EARS to my MoBo Raid controller. Although it IS configured for RAID and NOT for a legacy OS when I ran wdidle3 /R it showed the WD10EARS as set to 8 seconds. Whatever I did after that just hung everything. I set the BIOS to make the S-ATA/RAID controller as EIDE, but it did not matter.

    With everything set as before, I tried commands again. I would do a wdidle3 /R to see what it was set to, but then whidle3 /D and everything else would hang the system.

    THE FIX...for me anyway...

    I booted the CD again with the WD10EARS OFF. When I was at the DOS prompt, I turned the WD10EARS on and waited for it to spin up and ready. Now, when I did a wdidle3 /D it came back and reported that it was now set to 3720 seconds...62 minutes. At that point, if I tried a wdidle3 /R, it would hang. So, I turned the drive off, rebooted, and turned the drive back on. When I now did a wdidle3 /R it now shows 3720 seconds instead of the 8.0 seconds it showed before, so it DID work.

    Bottom line...if you get these hangs at every command, try what I had to do. I see several posts saying that WDIDLE3 did not work for them. Perhaps the issue is that the system will only take 1 command per boot! I do not know why, but this was the only thing that worked for me.
     
  5. Jul 1, 2010 #6085 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sooooo...are you in 3TB territory (total) happy TiVoland now? :)
     
  6. Jul 1, 2010 #6086 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Not yet. Can you call my wife and tell her to get the heck off of the system I built for her? :D

    I used mine to run wdidle3 and hddscan, but want to use her system for the copy stuff. I want to get at least the system in the Theater Room done as HBO has the Complete John Adams series going on Saturday. I could always record it on the already running 1 TB TIVO upstairs and then just MRV ...OH...never mind! :D
     
  7. Jul 1, 2010 #6087 of 10248
    richsadams

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    No, no matter what anyone says, I really do value my life. So no calls to anyone else's wives! :D

    Thanks for the John Adams Series tip...saw it when it first aired...excellent mini-series. :up: :up: :up: I'll be able to recommend it to some friends that missed it the first time around. Too bad we can't copy it now. :mad:

    Happy upgrading...when you can anyway. ;)
     
  8. Jul 1, 2010 #6088 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Well, that is why I d/l the HBO/Cinemax Monthly pdf from hbo.com.

    Well, she has an appointment at about 4:45, so I will do it then. With hddscan and wdidle3 run already I hope it will go OK.
     
  9. Jul 1, 2010 #6089 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Well, I upgraded one of them. Not sure I have an issue or not. I am letting it run now. I did wdidle3 and AAM. Then I did a copy. I put the new WD10EARS in and have the 157 hours. I added 7 John Adams shows (the complete series) on HBO this Saturday and it then did a reboot a few minutes later...not good. It came back and said getting channel info...why, who knows. It then did another reboot and has been running ever since. I have seen people say that they went through a few reboots and then all was OK. If it happens again, I will take the new 2nd drive and try it in that TIVO. I would think it is not the drive but who knows.
     
  10. Jul 1, 2010 #6090 of 10248
    yukit

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    Glad you managed to get it to work eventually.

    As I recall, wdidle3 /D seems to work only with the latest version of wdidle3. I think it is 1.05.

    I believe a member here (rocko?) updated a bootable ISO image with the latest version of wdidle3.

    In my case, I was not able to make wdidle3 work at all with a laptop with an esata dock. I had to connect a WD20EARS to a desktop with a sata on a MoBo. YMMV.
     
  11. Jul 1, 2010 #6091 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Actually I had tried both and got the 1 command hang on both 1.05 and 1.03. I got it working with 1.03.

    Still wonder about those 2 reboots, but so far it is running OK...for now. I am thinking of doing the copy again from the original 160GB drive to the still unused (but I have run wdidle3 and AAM) drive I bought for the bedroom. I bought two WD10EARS and could try that...put the one that had 2 reboots in the bedroom after doing a copy from the bedroom 160GB drive. Perhaps I am worrying about nothing. Still, the problem would either move or they would both work.
     
  12. Jul 2, 2010 #6092 of 10248
    ThreeSoFar

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  13. Jul 2, 2010 #6093 of 10248
    richsadams

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    The WD10EARS would be a good option for an internal upgrade (it's certainly cheaper...and the way to go IMHO), but I don't think that's what the OP was wanting to do and why he's looking at a 1TB My DVR Expander. He has a TiVoHD so using the WD drive in an external enclosure isn't a P&P option either.

    The Sammy drives have had a very mixed to failed TiVo upgrade history. That's why they aren't on the FAQ's recommended list and probably s/b avoided.
     
  14. Jul 2, 2010 #6094 of 10248
    reubanks

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    bowlingblogger

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    richsadams

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    :eek: *Shaking head* Isn't that amazing...<$100 for 2TB. Where will it all end? :rolleyes:
     
  17. Jul 2, 2010 #6097 of 10248
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Think it will end with our empty wallets and fat tivos. :D
     
  18. Jul 2, 2010 #6098 of 10248
    richsadams

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    "And so he did speak and verily I say unto you each and every one, what he spoke was the truth" :D
     
  19. Jul 2, 2010 #6099 of 10248
    Marconi

    Marconi TiVo Junkie

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    There's a saying here in Arizona, that having four-wheel-drive just means you can get stuck further from the road.

    Having lost the 1 TB drive in a THD recently, I can say with certainty that having a very large hard drive (or two) just means you can lose more recordings when it goes south.

    There's something to be said for keeping the original 160 GB drive in the THD and having fewer recordings at risk.
     
  20. Jul 2, 2010 #6100 of 10248
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Houston, We have a Tivo.
     

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