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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. May 20, 2010 #5881 of 10306
    Lyzardo

    Lyzardo New Member

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    I, too, just upgraded a Tivo HD with the same drive (the drive had a "born on" date of March 2010) and have had no soft reboot problems, even after soft rebooting several times. (In fact, I do it a couple times a week just to see what happens). Wait. That sounded wierd. :D

    Anyway, I have not done any disabling of Intellipark. It has been working fine for almost two weeks. Not sure if the other shoe is going to drop on me here or what, but so far so good.
     
  2. May 20, 2010 #5882 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Thanks very much for the feedback...very valuable.

    IIRC that makes two reports of WD10EVDS hard drives not needing Intellipark to be disabled for a soft reboot. Hopefully WD has addressed the issue.

    Enjoy your "new" TiVo!
     
  3. May 20, 2010 #5883 of 10306
    cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    Funny thing to mention on my WD15EARS born date March 2010, this drive exhibited no soft reboot issues installed into my 648250b machine, I then install it into my 652160 machine and have a soft reboot issue. YAY. Easy fix though
     
  4. May 20, 2010 #5884 of 10306
    bowlingblogger

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    Did I say a couple? I meant a couple or ten...
     
  5. May 21, 2010 #5885 of 10306
    whitepelican

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    Newegg currently has the 1TB WD10EARS drives for $64.99 with free shipping - WD10EARS You need to use promo code "emcysnz48" to get the $64.99 price.
     
  6. May 21, 2010 #5886 of 10306
    turbobuick86

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  7. May 21, 2010 #5887 of 10306
    MikeAndrews

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    It's $94.99 with a $15 mail-in rebate, but it's still a deal except for me. I always get burned when life takes priority and I end up forgetting to send in the rebate.

    I'm getting the Western Digital AV-GP WD15EVDS 1.5TB which is $119 currently at NewEgg, and I'll likely buy it somewhere else, like Amazon ($137), because NewEgg doesn't handle drives with the due care.
     
  8. May 21, 2010 #5888 of 10306
    turbobuick86

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    My wallet is getting thick with plastic rebate cards ranging from $15 to $150. I just need to remember to use them. One even has an expiration date of August this year, but I think that's against the law in California... or is that only gift cards and not rebate cards?
     
  9. May 23, 2010 #5889 of 10306
    JohnNButchNGunny

    JohnNButchNGunny New Member

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    Kyle,

    Thanks for the very positive post explaining your history with the 2TB Tivo HD image. Since my postings on this thread, and the one you recommended, I have received multiple messages from members asking if I've received a copy. As of this posting, I have not obtained the image, and am very interested in upgrading my Tivo HD with a WD20EVDS 2TB drive. I understand how time consuming it must be to deal with this message traffic. I greatly appreciate any help you can provide.

    Thanks! -- John
     
  10. May 23, 2010 #5890 of 10306
    dprichter

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    Tried the upgrade yesterday with recordings intact. Tried MfsCopy. That did not work so well got hung up. Probably bad sectors on drive. I put the old drive back in the TiVo and and finished watching all recordings.

    Ran the upgrade this morning with the backup command. All is well and I now have 1TB drive.

    Thanks again!
     
  11. May 23, 2010 #5891 of 10306
    MitchV

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    In case this might help anyone who tracks this stuff...

    I posted some months ago and this weekend I finally got around to upgrading my TiVo HD. I just followed the standard upgrade path (WinMFS -> copied recordings and everything).

    Everything appears to be working well and I have soft-rebooted several times... no issues. /shrug

    I guess I just *barely* beat the cut-off date with this HD.


    MDL: WD10EVVS - 63M5B0
    Product of Thailand
    DATE: 19 SEP 2009
    DCM: HBNCNV2MGB
    R/N: 701640
    LBA: 1953525168


    My post was way back here -> http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=370784&page=128

    Thanks!
     
  12. May 24, 2010 #5892 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Congrats guys...and welcome to the "Big Boys" club. ;) Enjoy!
     
  13. May 25, 2010 #5893 of 10306
    jwl

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    Thanks, Marconi. It's not crashing during playback pause but, during pause, the TV speakers from HDMI audio have a rapid, static-like, soft clicking that I don't recall hearing before. It sounds like a digital stream. (But it's now on a different TV at my place instead of mom's, while I try to fix it.)

    I'm gathering that iTiVo works only with Macs & can't be adapted for Vista or 7? No Macs here....

    pyTiVo might work with Windows, I think I'm understanding?

    About 1/3 of the programs -- even major network shows -- are copy protected. Does iTiVo's decrypt mode get around that? In case a relative wants to help.

    Worse, I can't make the others transfer. More on that below.
     
  14. May 25, 2010 #5894 of 10306
    jwl

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    We greatly appreciate your help, here & throughout, Rich. I'll follow what you say wherever I can.

    Current status in brief:
    1. We'd still like to save the programming.
    2. The DVR Expander is under warranty.
    3. Copying the data would necessitate opening the seal & voiding the warranty -- or would it need to be opened?
    4. We're having trouble copying to a PC using TiVo Desktop. (More below.)

    I'm feeling chances are slim, but what the heck?

    As for the e-SATA cable, the connection to the TiVo has never been tight, FWIW, but jiggles a bit -- using both ends of the cables I've tried. I haven't done much work yet with what I believe is a SIIG, installed just yesterday.

    (A large seller of "SIIG" cables on Amazon had sold me "SIIG" cables at a low price. After a few emails, SIIG said the ones I got did not appear to be SIIG's.)

    Still, I'd agree the problem is the drive & not the cables or enclosure.

    Would leaving the drive running for several days while sending data to a PC more likely cause it to fail than leaving it off & rebooting a lot -- or quickly duping the drive if possible?

    And, the drive is under warranty, so I'd like to avoid voiding that.

    I gather the only way not to void the warranty is to use USB-to-eSATA cables. I also gather that -- for simply copying data onto an identical drive -- simple cables or a dock is not possible, & that I'd have to hire someone to use MFSLive & linux, etc.

    (WD will send out a new drive, giving us 30 days to return the old one without charge. So, both drives would be available in case anything non-invasive can be done.)

    There are 144 comments on Amazon about the 1T Expander, with multiple reports of failure. FWIW, some said the 1T was unavailable for several months beginning last fall while WD apparently tried to address problems. One contributor said last month that WD finally provided driver updates & the Expander is now again available & working "perfectly."

    Great! But, would new driver updates make any replacement drive no longer "identical" to the older drives & therefore unable to accept a data transfer?

    As for trying TiVo Desktop, many files that will play or scan through will not transfer. Only two small files have transferred fully:

    1. An HD half hour (1954 MB) that causes WMP to crash (on an old laptop, anyway).
    2. An SD half hour (609 MB) that is the only full success.

    All other files get the following errors:

    "Interrupted," with an option to "Start Transfer Again."

    Followed by "The network location cannot be reached. For more info about network troubleshooting, see Windows Help."

    The message then changes to "The system cannot find the file specified."

    "Failed" then appears, with no option.

    The partial file can be saved if, shortly after "Interrupted" appears, the user does something (I can't recall) with the "Now Playing" option instead of selecting "Start Transfer Again."

    It's curious that one transfer failed every time it reached 2048 MB -- pretty exactly 2G. Others also may have failed at 2G, but I wasn't there when they did, & the size of the failed transfer quickly disappears (unless you're there to save the file).

    I'll try another computer, in case the 2G maximum is a computer problem.

    I hope this is helpful to other readers. I can't help but think there must be a solution, since every file I've tried lately will play through.

    Until it fails, I guess we could always sit & watch the stuff like in the old days, or archive/shift to DVD. Mom's going on 88 & still gets a charge out of all the action shows (when she's not at the garden or book club) -- but at a much earlier hour than 10 pm. She actually time-shifted everything on VCRs, & TiVo has made it even easier to get both excitement & a decent night's sleep. ;)

    Thanks again!
     
  15. May 26, 2010 #5895 of 10306
    jwl

    jwl New Member

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    Following my previous post, every other transfer from the TiVo HD to Desktop has failed at 2048 MB. The same error message appears: "The system cannot find the file specified."

    These files play through on the TiVo.

    Could the 2G that does transfer be solely on the TiVo's internal drive (or the external)? Is the transfer failing at the transition point from one drive to another?

    As for the other glitch, the 1954 MB file that caused WMP to crash on an old laptop will play through on a newer one.
     
  16. May 26, 2010 #5896 of 10306
    Jonathan_S

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    That sounds like a file system issue on the computer you're transfering to. (For example I know that the FAT 32 file system has a 2048 MB filesize limit, as do other older file systems.)

    But I've know I transfered plenty files in the 5 - 8 GB range and I think I've done a few in the 15 GB range (all to an NTFS filesystem).


    Can you check what file system the target disk is using?
     
  17. May 26, 2010 #5897 of 10306
    evanborkow

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    I had a similar problem and it turned out to be my anti virus program, Kasperski. Updating the AV program fixed the problem for me.
     
  18. May 27, 2010 #5898 of 10306
    jwl

    jwl New Member

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    Thanks. It's NTFS. File system problem seemed very reasonable. I'd just uncovered the bizarre but likely reason -- Kaspersky anti-virus -- when I read the post below yours, pointing to Kaspersky.
     
  19. May 27, 2010 #5899 of 10306
    jwl

    jwl New Member

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    Congratulations. What did you update to that fixed it?

    I had just found some threads here about Kaspersky & 2048 MB or 2G. Followed instructions on getting Kaspersky to treat the 3 TiVo programs as trusted. So far no luck.

    Other members added that they'd gotten things working but were failing once again after updating to the 2009 Kaspersky (which I'm using), but then got up to 4G with the 2010 edition. 4G isn't much of an improvement; it won't even get most 1-hour HD programs. I haven't found anyone with a solution. Most frequent advice is to drop Kaspersky.

    One post says "You also NEED Curl.exe (I think this is the one people forgot about)." Can anyone tell me where I need to have Curl.exe -- or what it is, & where in Kaspersky settings it goes? Thanks.

    [Not too OT, I hope. Good drives, old or new, might seem to need replacing or upgrading when it's the PC's AV that's faulty.]
     
  20. May 27, 2010 #5900 of 10306
    evanborkow

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    I went from Kaspersky AV 2009 to AV 2010 and had no problem with files > 4G.
     

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