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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Apr 28, 2010 #5721 of 10248
    Marconi

    Marconi TiVo Junkie

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    I don't do Windows. I'm a Mac user.

    It appears that TCL comes on Mac OS X. I just need to find the scripts, I guess. Thanks for the explanation.
     
  2. Apr 28, 2010 #5722 of 10248
    cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    That is correct sir no "special image" that only works in the TivoHD anyhow correct?
    I didnt buy any of the newer WD1tb drives. the 1.5 was only 10 bux more, although I did pick up a 1tb Hitachi for 69 shipped, the retail kit, what a steal :)
     
  3. Apr 28, 2010 #5723 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Glad to help a little.

    Even though I do Windows, I do still have my Apple][+.
    :D
     
  4. Apr 29, 2010 #5724 of 10248
    serenity

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    Hi guys, just offering up a tip from my experience with replacing the TiVo hdd.

    If you have an Asus mobo with AI Quiet (e.g. my p5w-dh from a few years back), setting the AAM will not work properly (it will appear to set the AAM to 128 but on reboot it will revert back to default!). This is no matter what tool you use (HDD Scan or Hitachi Tools). I found this out after noticing the hdd noise was surprisingly loud after I reinstalled it into my tivo the first time around. So I had to find another computer to set the AAM properly and have it stick.
    Reference: www silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=58156


    The second hitch was that setting AAM to 128 with Hitachi Tools would automatically set the mode to 'Enable (recommended value)' rather than 'Enable (user defined)'. The only way I could get around this was to select an AAM of 129 and then it stuck to 'Enable (user defined)'.

    Has anyone else run into these issues at all?
     
  5. Apr 29, 2010 #5725 of 10248
    whitepelican

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    TCL is just a programming language. The .tcl scripts that people refer to here are intended to be run on the Tivo itself. To do this you would need ftp/telnet access to the Tivo, which means it needs to be hacked. So, in reality, it is not very useful to most people here who have Series 3/TivoHD units unless they have replaced the prom in their Tivos.
     
  6. Apr 29, 2010 #5726 of 10248
    Marconi

    Marconi TiVo Junkie

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    Ooooooh... So it's not possible to enable telnet, ftp, ssh etc. on TiVo without PROM fiddling? I can't just copy over and enable the necessary binaries while I have the DVR drive removed?
     
  7. Apr 29, 2010 #5727 of 10248
    whitepelican

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    Nope. Not on a Series 3 or TivoHD.
     
  8. Apr 29, 2010 #5728 of 10248
    Marconi

    Marconi TiVo Junkie

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    What about my assorted Series 2 DVRs?
     
  9. Apr 29, 2010 #5729 of 10248
    Zugig

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    Rich,
    The original drive was unreliable before, prompting me to try the upgrade. I didn't really care about the programs on it but wanted to save cablecard setups, etc., so I ran the WinMFS transfer and thought it worked. I agree with you that the old drive is now officially NFG, but I think the problem might be mechanical rather than software as I had tried the kickstarts several times before and it fixed it for awhile but would then fail again. So I decided not to try that again and instead grabbed another of my Series3s, open the case, disconnected the drive and connected it to the PC to serve as the donor. I ran backup first, and am now running mfscopy. I couldn't find a way to not copy the programs, so Im doing that even though I don't care about them.
    I'll let you know if it works this time. Thanks for you help and for your continued support of this group. You are a Godsend.
    Regards,
    Reid
     
  10. Apr 29, 2010 #5730 of 10248
    whitepelican

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    Someone else can check me if I'm wrong here, but I believe the only Series 2s that can be software hacked are the ones that have a service number starting with TCD1 or TCD2. So, not the DT models. Maybe your other Series 2s, depending on the model. You probably would want to visit the Underground forum here and look for more info of this type.
     
  11. Apr 29, 2010 #5731 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sounds good. :up: BTW, since you're using an image from a different TiVo you may run into a hardware error when booting up the "new" TiVo. Or it may appear to be okay, but may eventually not work properly. If that's the case you will probably have to do a Clear and Delete everything. Unfortunately that will most likely wipe your cable card pairing. Hopefully (if that's the case) your cableco will let you call in your cable card info instead of requiring a truck roll. (Unless you have FIOS in which case it won't make any difference as they don't pair cable cards).

    Best of luck and let us know how it goes!
     
  12. Apr 29, 2010 #5732 of 10248
    tivoknucklehead

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    my 500gb Western digital DVR expander just died. my tivo kept rebooting and then would not recognize it at all. Bought the new 1tb one and it works great. Only bad thing is I lost all my now playing shows
     
  13. Apr 29, 2010 #5733 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sorry to hear about your loss. How old was it? A majority of posts indicate that the 500GB WD My DVR Expanders are lasting about 12 to 18 months. The good news (so far) is that the track record for the 1TB models seems to be much better. TIA.
     
  14. Apr 29, 2010 #5734 of 10248
    cr33p

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    Is it possible to disasemle a DVR expander and install a new drive and have the Tivo still pick the ID up properly? IE, a new 1tb drive into the old 500gb enclosure?
     
  15. Apr 29, 2010 #5735 of 10248
    S3-2501

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    Nope. The TivoHD recognizes only the specific drive model in the DVR expander, and not the enclosure itself. Any drive model other than the WD OEM one will not work via Plug and play in the enclosure.
     
  16. Apr 29, 2010 #5736 of 10248
    Jonathan_S

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    No, the Tivo is recognizing the drive, not the enclosure. (I think I've read some people have had the enclosure go bad, some moving the drive to a new enclosure worked for them)
     
  17. Apr 29, 2010 #5737 of 10248
    Phantom Gremlin

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    I ran into this, but perhaps you're "out thinking" the Hitachi Tools. Maybe it's the Jenglish tripping you up. I think that when the tools read back a value of 128, they display 'Enable (recommended value)'.

    The "recommended value" for AAM is 128. So by setting to 'Enable (recommended value)', you're just setting to 128. Which is what you want. A setting of 129 is probably just a little noisier, and is, as you discovered, "user defined".

    IIRC if you download the Drive Fitness Test (from the same website as the Hitachi Tools), one of the screens can display the AAM value. Can't set it, can only display. IIRC mine read as 128 after I set as described above by using Hitachi Tools.
     
  18. Apr 30, 2010 #5738 of 10248
    eaayoung

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    Try moving the drive to a new case. My 500 gig MyDVR died and I successfully relocated the drive to another case. This thread has plenty of reccomendations for a new external case. I eventually dropped the external drive from my setup due to problems with the external drive and a tuning adapter.
     
  19. Apr 30, 2010 #5739 of 10248
    serenity

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    Good to hear Im not alone :)
    Yes I suspected that 128 might be the recommended value, but just wanted to be on the safe side in case it wasnt or in case the recommended value changed
     
  20. Apr 30, 2010 #5740 of 10248
    drewfidelic

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    My WD 500 GB DVR expander died this week after about 15 months of service with my TiVo HD. After being unable to boot, I replaced the internal disk with a 1TB WD AV-GP, which seems to be working well.

    Unfortunately, I could not boot the TiVo to unpair the Expander. WinMFS could see the original 160 GB drive as a TiVo disk, but the PC couldn't access the MyDVR Expander drive at all. So, I reimaged using InstantCake (whose price has gone up from the reasonable $19.99 to the less reasonable $39.99.) Unfortunately, this lost my CableCard info and I can't use cable until TWC sends a service tech out to re-pair the CableCard-- which is frustrating, because all the tech who first setup the CableCards did was call the office and read numbers off the screen. I can read numbers off a screen-- but don't know enough about cable terminology to have TWC tech support do this over the phone. Blergh.

    So, kind of a major PITA, but at least I have more capacity with one less device sucking electricity, I suppose. It'd have been nice not to have to deal with the cable company.
     

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