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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Apr 17, 2010 #5601 of 10334
    emerz

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    My advice, stay away from the Black model if you are noise sensative. I installed a 2T Caviar Black in my PC. It was so noisy I couldn't stand it. No way to adjust a AAM either. I would up replacing it with a Hitachi.

    The Black models are super fast but the downside is the noise. :(
     
  2. Apr 17, 2010 #5602 of 10334
    rxrepli

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    I have just completed imaging a WD20EVDS with the 2TB Image Mr. Broflovski has generously made available to us. I have not installed it yet, but I wanted to share my thanks and appreciation to all in this community that make the TiVo experience even better!

    Using WinMFS to do the upgrade appeared to have run smoothly and Mfsinfo reports the following:
    Total SA SD Hours: 2083 Total DTV SD Hours: 1818 100 % Free
    Software: 11.0d-01-2-652 Tivo Model: not set in MFS

    When I attempted MfsSupersize, I did receive the following message, “Sorry! MfsSupersize failed!”

    After I complete the WD Data LifeGuard Diagnostics extended test and I get the opportunity to install the drive into the TiVo, I’ll report any additional learning’s I can share.
     
  3. Apr 17, 2010 #5603 of 10334
    MPSAN

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    Did it get 11.0g yet? What version does it show?
     
  4. Apr 17, 2010 #5604 of 10334
    MPSAN

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    OH...I will have to try that the next time I open 1 up to upgrade! :D
     
  5. Apr 17, 2010 #5605 of 10334
    MPSAN

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    Well, so much has gone on between even the IDE133 and the SATA drives of today. With embedded servos, Perpendicular recording and MANY other things like advanced head tech, high track and bit density they are improved...along with MTBF. They all run cooler as well, with fewer platters and single bearings!

    Anyway, there are so many things that could be done. One cool thing would be to have the OS/Firmware of the THD in a type of EEPROM. It could be updated but TV and the buffer would still, of course go to the DASD. Then if there were a bad sector...so what. It would be a glitch during playback. Also, this bad sector could be mapped out and not used again. I am not sure it would even cost much to do this.

    Also, it would be fun to try a SATA SSD for a real silent Bedroom THD! While I was working I would have taken one home by now to try!

    Anyway, I am sure this is way OT!
     
  6. Apr 17, 2010 #5606 of 10334
    donnoh

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    It's got a pending restart, I assume to install the .g revision, it currently has 11.0.d. I'm holding off on the re-start until it finishes transfering a few programs from my other Tivo.

    I'll report back if it goes ok, but I assume it will based on a post reported earlier by another member that upgraded his HD to this same image and got the .g image with no problems.
     
  7. Apr 17, 2010 #5607 of 10334
    MPSAN

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    Yup, that must be the update.
     
  8. Apr 18, 2010 #5608 of 10334
    donnoh

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    I checked my Tivo this morning and it sucessfully installed the 11.0g software release with no problems on the Mr. Broflovski image. So far so good.
     
  9. Apr 18, 2010 #5609 of 10334
    wolf rayet

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    Hi All,
    Just wanted to share my external hard drive up grade experience. I picked up a remanufactured S3 from Woot last month for $175.00 and wanted to bring up the 30hrs HD storage to something a little more respectable. So I picked up a 1Tb Hitachi Deskstar Model# E7K1000 and a Sabrent eSATA hard drive enclosure with fan, slipped the drive into the enclosure connected it to my S3and followed the instructions spelled out on this forum. All is working well, I went from 30hrs HD to 178hrs in a matter of a few minuets. To finish a BIG THANKS! for all the helpful people in this community, AGAIN THANKS!
     
  10. Apr 18, 2010 #5610 of 10334
    nickhaas33

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    2tb WD drives coming down now too.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=361116&SID=FW8t6x1e

    Don't really know if this particular model will work with TIVO

    Oops, looks like it will not work out of the box...
    Other Thoughts: For those complaining about incompatibility, slow speeds, or other issues with drives that end in EARS: This is an 'Advanced Format' drive, which uses 4kB sectors instead of the normal 512B sectors older drives use. This results in better space efficiency. However Windows XP (and apparently TiVo) doesn't work well with the new block size. It can be switched back using a jumper, or you can use a program to realign it. More information can be found by checking Wikipedia article on "Advanced Format" and viewing external links.
     
  11. Apr 18, 2010 #5611 of 10334
    richsadams

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    That info appears to be outdated. There were concerns when the drives came out a couple of months ago, but a number of folks here are successfully using EARS model drives in their TiVo's now (you can do a search for some testimonies). The 4Kb sector issue apparently has no affect (on TiVo).
     
  12. Apr 19, 2010 #5612 of 10334
    RayChuang88

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    I wonder does WD has any plans for a 2 TB version of My DVR Expander? Imagine adding in up to 300 MORE hours of HD video storage. [​IMG]
     
  13. Apr 19, 2010 #5613 of 10334
    alyssa

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    I don't think I'd trust anything with the "my" in it.
    We had a couple of mybooks which failed within a year or two.
    Isn't there a thread about the huge failure rate of the MyDVR's?
     
  14. Apr 19, 2010 #5614 of 10334
    jadziedzic

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    Imagine losing all your recordings when the 2Tb MyDVR Expander goes belly up. :D
     
  15. Apr 19, 2010 #5615 of 10334
    cjv2

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    Imagine one day needing more than 640K.

    Oh wait, wrong technology discussion, my bad. :D
     
  16. Apr 19, 2010 #5616 of 10334
    donnoh

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    I bought a 500GB MyTivo expander about 2 years ago. I retired it to my home built WHS box about a year and a half ago and it's been fine ever since.

    In a different life it's been ok.
     
  17. Apr 19, 2010 #5617 of 10334
    RayChuang88

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    I'm still hoping that we'll see external eSATA 1 TB and 2 TB drives from Hitachi and Seagate that will work easily with either the TiVo S3 or Premiere DVR's.

    Mind you, I think within three years we may have eSATA 1 TB and 2 TB solid state drives that will work with a TiVo box. :)
     
  18. Apr 19, 2010 #5618 of 10334
    reversengineer

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    I just caught this HITACHI Deskstar HD31000 IDK/7K (0S00163) 1TB HDD for $70 from NewEgg last week and performed the drive swap described at the top of this post. All went well, and my upgraded TIVO HD is operating flawlessly. It took about 2 hours for the copy process considering all the recordings I had on the original drive. Just be patient. I had the new drive connected via USB to SATA converter, and I hooked the original TIVO drive straight to my computer's motherboard and PSU.

    Just to be sure (for now), here is the newegg item number to the exact drive I got:
    Item=N82E16822145287
     
  19. Apr 20, 2010 #5619 of 10334
    richsadams

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    And how long did you say that you could hold your breath? ;)

    FWIW the ability to add a Seagate or Hitachi or most any other 1TB eSATA HDD drive to a Series3 via P&P has been available for several years now.
     
  20. Apr 20, 2010 #5620 of 10334
    kdzenith

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    I purchased the 1 TB Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C HDS721010CLA332 from Newegg, just before the HD310000 sale was announced. I don't recall a significant price difference at the time. I do NOT know if they are really the same drive or not. I chose the 7K1000.C because I read a post somewhere that said the new C class Jupiter drives were significantly quieter than the B Class. Could be true, could be hearsay. My drive is very quiet!!! Easily the equal of my original 250GB WD in the Series 3. Very easy install, very easy to turn the AAM down using HDD Scan 3.2. I would buy again without hesitation.

    As for Newegg, my drive arrived completely bubblewrapped with foam peanuts to fill the rest of the box. Could not have been wrapped better. On the other hand, I have previously experienced very poor packing on a Newegg HDD shipment - so inconsistent - or maybe they finally got the message to do a better job!!
     

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