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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Apr 6, 2010 #5501 of 10248
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    Perhaps because the pending restart is a soft reboot and that is the issue with wdidle3 needing to be run. It may be OK if you do a hard reset (power it off). In fact, if Intellipark is not disabled, the drive should work just fine until a soft reboot is again tried.
     
  2. Apr 6, 2010 #5502 of 10248
    Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

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    I was about to upgrade/fix my THD , been talking about it for months. Now I need a 652160 Image:(The original drive will boot up( w/hardreboot every once in a while. and die in around 1 hr:thumbsdown:

    I ordered the Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARS 1TB 5400 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive from Newegg for $ 70 total. I seen that the 4k cache is not an issue as shown in the FAQ

    I thought about getting a the 1.5 version and PM Mr. Broflovski :D
     
  3. Apr 6, 2010 #5503 of 10248
    ADG

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    Actually that's the exact problem. It will work fine until a forced reboot (such as after a s/w upgrade) and then it will hang. Hence the need to use wdidle.
     
  4. Apr 6, 2010 #5504 of 10248
    dmorel

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    OK, 184 pages is an awful lot to go through.
    Getting a replacement drive for an HD tomorrow, 1Tb from weaknees (bad drive in one of my HD's)...

    Anything I need to know? I'm seeing a lot of concerns about reboots after software upgrades with the replacement drives... Any other interesting gotchas to worry about or I can just swap the drive (deal with cox cable and re-pairing the card) and have a nice day?
     
  5. Apr 6, 2010 #5505 of 10248
    grit

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    Any idea why WDIdle3.exe wouldn't recognize the drive? It was able to find my raptor hdd, but it can't see the 1TB green drive. i even tried unplugging the raptor so the only hdd was the 1TB, but it simply did not see it.
     
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  7. Apr 6, 2010 #5507 of 10248
    ayman86

    ayman86 New Member

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    so no one knows why i keep getting a "not a tivo drive" in winmfs?
     
  8. Apr 6, 2010 #5508 of 10248
    cjv2

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    In my case, the drive would not boot at all, ever. I sat at "Welcome! Powering up" forever, on a hard boot. Soft boot was a non-issue, because you have to hard boot at least once successfully to get into the OS to initiate a soft boot, and I couldn't even get that far.

    I believe it was a WD10EADS, and I wound up taking it back. I forget the firmware rev, etc., but it's buried somewhere further back in the thread. It was around the time folks were just starting to figure the Intellipark business out. As I had nothing to work with but a USB -> SATA adapter, wdidle was a non-option for me and I posted that bit of info to the thread.
     
  9. Apr 6, 2010 #5509 of 10248
    S3-2501

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    There are many possible reasons. How did you connect the drive to the motherboard, and what are your SATA settings in your BIOS (IDE, AHCI or RAID?) Did you connect it to your motherboard's main SATA connectors, or to connectors controlled by a secondary chip (if your MB has one?) The list of possibilities goes on and on...

    If you have everything connected properly and boot from the wdidle3 disc, you can just run wdidle3 without any command switches and it will look at all connected drives and tell you their current status. If you don't see the drive listed there then something's wrong. Another thing to check successful connection is to go into your PC's BIOS and see if the drive shows up there.

    Which dive model do you have? (eg. WD10EVDS)
     
  10. Apr 7, 2010 #5510 of 10248
    grit

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    It was the primary ICH10 controller. I thought after the fact that perhaps I should have turned off AHCI and put it to IDE. The drive does show up in BIOS, just not in WDIdle3. And there was the irony. Using AHCI, it DID find the raptor drive, but not the green drive.

    I'm on the way to bed and the drive is inside the Tivo right now, but I'm pretty sure the model is WD10EACS. If it's not, then it is definitely the WD10EADS.
     
  11. Apr 7, 2010 #5511 of 10248
    tincan

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    Another 11.0g data point. My THD took the upgrade last night and rebooted, and aside from the tuning adapter-induced wonkiness, all is well. :up:
     
  12. Apr 7, 2010 #5512 of 10248
    andy_hd

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    Were you able to keep your cablecard settings? Were you able to keep your recordings?
     
  13. Apr 7, 2010 #5513 of 10248
    rxrepli

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    I'll second that! A 2TB Series3 Image would be a real treat!
     
  14. Apr 7, 2010 #5514 of 10248
    tincan

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    Yes, and yes, but I think your question is geared more toward the drive upgrade and not the TiVo software upgrade. To clarify, I bought the THD, upgraded to 2TB, then activated and installed. The 11.0g upgrade hit me last night, and my Mr. Broflovski image'd THD survived.
     
  15. Apr 7, 2010 #5515 of 10248
    andy_hd

    andy_hd New Member

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    Yes -- my question goes to whether I can upgrade an existing HD using the Broflovski image and keep my recordings and cable card settings. I really don't want to get Comcast involved again.
     
  16. Apr 7, 2010 #5516 of 10248
    T1V0

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    no

    you can't reimage and retain anything. the image restore will overwrite anything on the disk
     
  17. Apr 8, 2010 #5517 of 10248
    jlib

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    That is odd that it saw your Raptor. Sometimes there are 2 separately controlled pairs of SATA connections on the motherboard. That mystery notwithstanding, AHCI needs to be temporarily turned off for the WDIdle3 DOS boot disk to interact with the target drive.
     
  18. Apr 8, 2010 #5518 of 10248
    bananaman

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    Nothing here just THANKS to this community for continuing to stay on top of TiVo upgrades!

    18 months ago I successfully upgraded one of my Series 3's with a Western Digital WD10EVDS 1TB drive. A few days ago I decided to upgrade my second Series 3 with the same type of drive... didn't work! Stuck at "Welcome! Powering up...". So I hit the community drive expansion FAQ... and there's my answer at #29: The latest build WD10EVDS's have the Intellipark feature... which must be adjusted with wdidle3... and bingo! It's working!

    This drive is so quiet you almost need a stethoscope to hear it running.

    The TiVo Community rocks!
     
  19. Apr 9, 2010 #5519 of 10248
    jcthorne

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    Just a quick post for anyone looking to do the 2TB upgrade, Newegg has the Hitachi 2tb on sale today for 134 with free shipping.
     
  20. Apr 9, 2010 #5520 of 10248
    ADG

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    Couldn't agree more. This thread in general and Rich Adams in particular are invaluable!
     

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